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Hi guys, Well today I finally found my first cache other than a few coins in a hole. I was detecting a wooded area in a old neighborhood. I got a strong signal overtop of a flat big rock on the surface. I moved the rock dug down about 8 inches and out pops this box. I shook it for the sound of coins but didn't hear much. I put it in my pouch and went on hunting.
When I got home a few hrs ago the box appeared to be sealed with some kind of solder. I went down to the basement got some wire cutters and started to cut it open. I started to see a cloth and was able to pull a earing out. I then knew I had something. I saw a pocket watch also. I was very excited to open it up and see what was in it.
Some of the stuff appears to be gold and silver but not marked. I haven't done much to the stuff but rinse it and scan it for you guys. There was a small coin inside the compact thing with the old English writing. It has on the front a eagle on a shield with a star badge under it that looks like the one's police use. The back has alot of writing but I have to look over it with a loop. It is also dated 1861 1866. The medal I found says 35th annual encampment Pennsylvania divisions of veterans u.s.a. It says at the top delegate. One the back it has the picture of the capitol. It says on the front 1915 phila.
Wish I knew who and why this was buried. I am guessing it was buried in the teens. Let me know what you guys think. I don't know much about this stuff and the brand watches. I will leave more info as I look the stuff over and as you guys reply to it.
Thanks again HH Jer
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2005, 01:00:22 pm » |
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WOW!!!! What a haul!!! Fantastic finds you lucky dog! Congrats! Congrats! Congrats! JerDfx You are the man! Thanks for an awsome post! HH omnicognic  |
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2005, 01:01:53 pm » |
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very cool find, hope someday i can share the same.
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« Reply #3 on: May 02, 2005, 01:05:26 pm » |
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Awesome find,especially the watch band with the price tag still on it...cool!
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« Reply #4 on: May 02, 2005, 01:05:45 pm » |
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« Reply #5 on: May 02, 2005, 01:10:12 pm » |
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WOW! I bet you heart was REALLY beepin' ! That's a great find!  Nana |
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« Reply #6 on: May 02, 2005, 01:11:45 pm » |
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OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! Love those old pocket watches! Were did you find these Jer. Amazing!
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« Reply #7 on: May 02, 2005, 01:18:09 pm » |
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That is FANTASTIC. I am looking at the cuff links and wondering if they are real diamonds. the watches alone are worth a nice amount and I believe the Medal could be worth a lot more than oyu think. You really need to research it. Great Finds. I dont know if I could Type after all that. Nice work JerDFX.HH Keep us posted on your story here.
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« Reply #8 on: May 02, 2005, 01:19:41 pm » |
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Great find, wish I was that lucky!!! Pepperpump  |
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« Reply #9 on: May 02, 2005, 01:25:12 pm » |
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NICE!! Unbelievable stuff!
I would love it if you could make you pics juuuuuuuuust a little smaller tho, so I don't have to scroll over!
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« Reply #10 on: May 02, 2005, 01:29:15 pm » |
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That is an absolutely FANTASIC find! My regards! I especially love the one bracelet that still has the price tag on it! Some of this stuff may be very, very valuable.. ?if you don't know Pappy from the TreasureQuestXLT board, here's his thread where people ask him what stuff is - please visit this and link him here. He'll be able to tell you what most if not all of what that stuff is! http://www.treasurequestxlt.com/community/forumdisplay.php?f=84Again, congratulations! (just makes you stop and think of all those "big iron signals that were too deep to dig....") |
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« Reply #11 on: May 02, 2005, 01:30:47 pm » |
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Very Cool find. Way too go. I have heard of several catches being found under rocks. One was a jar of silver dollars in a flower bed at a old house. So start moving those rock guys.
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« Reply #12 on: May 02, 2005, 01:32:06 pm » |
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WOW, thats a years dig for most.Great find.HH
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« Reply #13 on: May 02, 2005, 01:32:52 pm » |
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Very Cool find. Way too go. I have heard of several catches being found under rocks. One was a jar of silver dollars in a flower bed at a old house. So start moving those rock guys.
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« Reply #14 on: May 02, 2005, 01:39:31 pm » |
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Good Job- I bet your hand was shaking.
What a thrill! Is that blood on that cloth or just rust?
Way to Go
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« Reply #15 on: May 02, 2005, 02:26:01 pm » |
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Hats off to you, man!!! Excellent finds!
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« Reply #16 on: May 02, 2005, 02:34:30 pm » |
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That is totally awesome!, Jer
You really deserve it. I've seen some of your other post, and you are one hard core hunter,,, WTG!!!
I bet ya can't buy a bracelet like that for $2 bucks these days... I would definitely have some of that stuff checked out...
Good luck, as if you need it, & Happy hunting~
P.S.> What's the dimensions on the box? It doesn't look to be too big...
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« Reply #17 on: May 02, 2005, 02:38:26 pm » |
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nice digs jer,thanks for the post,you have some nice stuff there,the watches are nice and may be worth something right along with the other stuff,great job.
Mark
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« Reply #18 on: May 02, 2005, 02:42:19 pm » |
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Thanks alot guys, I can't even make it to the local club tonight after this find. Tomorrow is my birthday and every year I make a extraordinary find for some reason on my birthday. I happened to go out today because the wife came home from work early. I found a seated dime yesterday and was going to put it up along with the rest of the stuff I found yesterday until I found this today. I will get more picks together for you guys. Sorry that my picks are so close up. I hate that myself but I have to try and figure out how to make them smaller when needed and zoomed in when needed. I think that 2 of the pieces are solid gold but not sure. I don't know if it is common for the casing of the pocket watch to be stamped with the karat it is. They have writing but don't say gold or gold plated or anything.
I was able to carry the cache because believe it or not it is the size of a bar of soap. But it was really heavy. Everything was wrapped up in that cloth so when I shook it I couldn't really here anything but knew something was in it. I didn't want to get my hopes up to high so I actually went on with my hunt. I found a buffaloe nickle and a v-nickle and was happy with that. I was only out today not even 1 and a half hrs.
When I got home was when I started to get excited again as to what may be in it. It was hard to get open. I wanted to keep it in the best as shape as I could but I was forced to cut it open. It was sealed. I was shaking a little ?as I took every artifact out carfully. It has to be something great for me to start shaking. Just one coin in the cache. It was sealed in the locket like a surprise. I took every thing out and said no coins. I rinsed everything off. I decided to open it up to find a picture of the person and there was a tiny coin the size of a 3 cent silver in it. It has a hole in it that you would need a bit smaller than a tooth pick to drill it.
Thanks again guys. I will work on getting it cleaner and showing you guys the insides of the watches. It really is out there. I did not expect it at all. If that cache where 2 feet deep I would have found it. The box is made of copper. It looks like it has a nickle plating over it. With all the good metal in the box my detector read it as a plus 93 on the dfx and came in very strong. It was probably 8 to 10 inches deep after I moved the rock off the surface.
HH Jer
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« Reply #19 on: May 02, 2005, 03:56:26 pm » |
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Nice finds for sure jerdfx!! con-grats on such a nice cache!
1 thing though, and I'm not trying to burst your bubble, but,
take a look at the "wrist watch"
the common man didn't use/own wrist watches until the mid 20th century (1940s/50s) (they weren't even invented until the very end of the 1800s and were considered "womens pieces" even into the teens/20s/30s.
Also, it looks as though the back of that watch is "stainless steel??"
Stainless steel wasn't even invented until 1924 (which how long before they started using it for general items, and then using it on watches?).
Judging by the design, and composition of that watch (if that back is stainless steel??)
this cache was buried no earlier than the 50s at the earliest.
Some of the items contained within are older (that's obvious)
I believe the Elgin pocket watch to be solid silver case (1930s)
the gold pocket watch to be "solid gold case" (1910s - 1920s)
the other pocket watch "silver plate" (1930s/40s)
the locket (gold plate) 1920s/30s
the stick pins (1920s/30s)
the medals, cuff links, etc. etc. - brass, silver, and silver plate and or gold plate (1910s thru 1940s)
I see this kind of stuff almost daily, and sell a lot of it (along with coins- my main business/income). My business partner owns an antique shop that we do business together at. I'm not 100% sure on these estimates (without holding them in my hands to check) but, I have bought/sold a lot of similar items from these eras and a lot that have been almost identical to a lot of yours.
No matter though, it's a great find for dam sure!
Wish I could find one like it!
HH
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« Reply #20 on: May 02, 2005, 03:58:04 pm » |
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thats awsome bud!!!  |
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« Reply #21 on: May 02, 2005, 04:16:25 pm » |
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How about a pic of the pic of the person you found inside the locket... Sounds like a tongue twister... |
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« Reply #22 on: May 02, 2005, 04:34:36 pm » |
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I resized your pics and adjusted the color a bit... hope you don't mind...
oops, hang on...? something isnt right
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« Reply #23 on: May 02, 2005, 07:22:48 pm » |
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that cache is VERY cool we all wish to find something that cool someday yours came a little earlier than ours!not to pop your bubble but my guess is it was stolen and stashed many years back. y would someone hide some off this stuff that seems perfectlly fine in a jewelry box?just a thought but still a cool find,i found a ammo box(metal) buried at the base of a large lone tree. if you all could have seen my eyes, was on new years eve during a warm spell.took me 1/2 hour too dig it out frost frozen ground etc,the things running threw my mind, i was all over the page!!!!well it turned out to be some college kids time capsule so anti climatic,oh well way to JER you the man |
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« Reply #24 on: May 02, 2005, 07:27:51 pm » |
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Now thats a treasure I can believe and envy, Thanks for sharing.
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« Reply #25 on: May 02, 2005, 07:34:33 pm » |
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way to go nice find have to disagree with dekalb though, a stolen cache would not have been in a soldered box. are there any markings on the stickpins? again nice find :::::drool::::
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« Reply #26 on: May 02, 2005, 07:42:58 pm » |
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?J-- Thats one of the coolest post ive seen in awhile-- :oThat musta been sumpin' else!! Could have easily have been full o J.S. Ormsby $5 gold pieces......Hey -could happen!! Still your find and whole soldered box thing and its contents each have a rich little story behind them.Thats what its all about!!!And your overall story really encompasses our coolest of cool hobby--Detecting !! Man, keep it up your next box could have your retirement in it !! |
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« Reply #27 on: May 02, 2005, 07:43:09 pm » |
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Wow, Jer! ?Just looking at your pics got my heart going! ?If a newbie has any doubts about really being able to find treasure out there, all they need to do is read this thread for inspiration!
WTG and HH!
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« Reply #28 on: May 02, 2005, 08:05:02 pm » |
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Thanks alot everyone. I am attachimng some picks of the stuff cleaned up. Hope you all like them. I am working on some coins and artifacts right now as we speak. As soon as I get them done I will post tonight or tommorow.
Good luck to all HH Jer
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« Reply #29 on: May 02, 2005, 08:50:17 pm » |
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congratulations on a wonderful find. keep on digging !!!!
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« Reply #30 on: May 02, 2005, 09:00:58 pm » |
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All you have to do it open the picture files with windows paint (start menu> programs> accessories) click "image" at the top, then "stretch-skew" then type something less than 100 in BOTH the horizontal and vertical boxes. Save as whatever and bam! smaller picture.
And/Or you can drag the blue dot at the edge of the pic to get rid of empty space at the edges while keeping the main part of the pic the same size. While doing this, you may have to rotate the pic also using the "image" tap at the top!
hehehe I found a gold-plated cufflink today...not quite as exciting as your box!!
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« Reply #31 on: May 02, 2005, 09:47:31 pm » |
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Thanks for the picture tips MD. I will look into that. They would be alot better to look at. Sometimes they turn out good and sometimes they don't. As much as I'm loading and scanning all the time I'm happy just to get the story write and up. But it does suck scrolling through them to see all the stuff. Thanks again man. I'll try and get them looking better.
HH Jer
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« Reply #32 on: May 02, 2005, 09:52:55 pm » |
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This is a very cool cache find. I would display all of it for sure.
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« Reply #33 on: May 03, 2005, 06:16:34 am » |
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WTG Jeremy!! That is too cool. Got to love a Cache like that!!!
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« Reply #34 on: May 03, 2005, 06:35:15 am » |
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JERFFX I am still in awe here. The Delegate Medal really has me wondering too. There may be some good history behind that.My thoughts just wander and I become speechless. Great job on the cleaning too.I,m going to take you up on that offer soon af the cleaning tips. HH
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