Re: Now this is real Treasure-Hunting Debate!
October 11, 1999 at 21:37:10
In Reply to: Now this is real Treasure-Hunting Debate! posted by Curly on October 11, 1999 at 19:33:39
Ya'll,
Sorry people for starting a ruse! Its nice to see that some of you do read and research history. The problem is most of what I read here is from treasure magazines and books written by authors that read treasure mags.
Curley, you are on the right track when mentioning the Confederate flight into Mexico. The James Boys didn't go to Mexico until 1867 and only then to aid getting the rest of Gen. Shelby's Iron Brigade out and likely bringing some of Maximilians booty. There are several stories about that loot, but the best yet has not been published. I have my doubts about how much treasure actually came out of Mexico that belonged to MAX. but I do know some did and a few years ago I worked a site for some Texans and we actually found evidence that some of the French troops or at least their uniforms made it to Texas. When I get a web page I'll post a photo of a French Foreign Legion uniforn button found exactly where the MAX treasure is supposed to have been. Again this site was unmistakenly KGC by the codes and symbols used to work the site. However I know for a fact that some of that treasure went to NM too. Someone here mentioned Carlotta's crown being at VP. That is true! I have a video sent to me by some the Noss group and the crown is shown in detail there. The crown was part of the Hapsburg Crown Jewels broght to Mexico by Maximilian. I won't go into other things found in the peak, as I never talk out of turn on others projects. But I will say that there was more evidence than the crown and some secondary documentation of Carlotta herself being near the peak!
To write a history of the KGC and its treasures would take more time than I have to spend here, but you can take this to the bank. It doesn't make any difference where you read or heard a treasure tale, they all started with someone telling the story. The Rebel yarn which began the Lost Adams legend was published in a Texas Newspaper, I think, around the end of the last century. Since I seldom read tresure mags. and prefer to do my research using the very first appearences of stories, I speak only of the story written by W. H. Byerts about 1915 as being the Reb legend. I'm sure someone can find another version of this story, in fact I went through my library and quickly found four different yarns about the LA. I can't buy into the story that Adams was in NM in 1838. One discription of him says he was about 35 years old in 1864. That would make him mighty young in 1838, to be roaming the Rocky Mts. So unless the people who actually knew Adams were lying we can rule out him as being the Adams of 1838 fame.
As for the Skeleton Canyon yarn, all of those mentioned as participants in that story were Rebels to the TEE. So why argue the point that it may not be Rebel treasure..I was alway told if it walks like a duck, you know! I have seen rock carvings from the canyon and they are KGC, so if one treasure there isn't KGC another is!
Its a shame there is not more information on the KGC available to the public. Most of those having any knowledge keep it very discrete and why not-would you pass out information worth 3.5 billion in gold and want put it out on the street.
All I have ever done on this forum is try to set some of you straight on what you are trying to find.
The truth about the KGC is so unbeliveable most of you would pass it up if you seen it. I liken those just learning about the KGC treasures to-whomever Jack Nicholson was speaking to in the movie "a few good men" when he said something like- "THE TRUTH, THE TRUTH, you couldn't handle the TRUTH IF YOU HEARD IT"..
I'm the first to admit I could be wrong about some of what I say, but if you read my statements very carefully you will see, If I am commenting on a subject I only suspect is the way I see it, I alway use words like apparent, possibly, maybe, likely etc. I don't make rash statements unless myself or one of my associates in GCR has the proof in hand.
RWLUE, I think you and I have shared enough email for you to know I am really an Honest Indian and would never steer a person wrong. I wish you would keep an eye out for my next speaking engagement or seminar and try to attend. I thought you might be in Tulsa at the big show in 1997. We had an all night KGC bull session there, which was attended by about 20 pretty sharp THers.
Guys, When time allows I will put up a Web page and post some of my previous published writings on the KGC. Ouachita Treasures has two new KGC treasure hunting videos in work and hopes to release them sometime next year. Trouble is we spend our time working on everyone else's treasure projects and little on our own. Maybe this winter we will catch up and try to finish up a book or two and the videos. Note I have the old version of Forbidden Knowledge on disc and could print copies if need be.
Dig often! Dig Shallow! Dig Yellow!
Hillbilly
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