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    2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    Hey folks it's that time again. I know the year is not over & my mom seems to be doing well after her surgery on her knee,so thinking I'll have a few more chances to get out before the years end. She's been staying with us since the surgery but she's ready to get back to her home maybe tomorrow. Anyway I'm kinda bored & have always posted each year my finds.This post will hold my best six....

    The first & my coolest for me this year was the copper sheet pendant(#1) I've posted alot on it already but have a little to add with a map I found showing were the indian Manteo was born.Which is very close to were I found it & is why it keeps me thinking about it.If not his then very likely was from some of his tribe.Below is all the info on it.................& hope to get sometime one day to maybe have it analyzed for it's composition.
    The post............
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,382859.0.html

    http://www.nps.gov/history/history/o...appendixa1.htm
    http://www.virtualjamestown.org/paspahegh/copper.html
    http://www.vacadsci.org/vjsArchives/v47/47-1/p9.pdf
    http://www.preservationvirginia.org/...hp?page_id=230


    Movie/video.....
    http://video.unctv.org/video/2149619983/#



    Copper’s Significance in the Middle Atlantic at Contact






    The value of copper in protohistoric Carolina and Chesapeake



    Algonquian society cannot be overstated. It was no
    ordinary universal equivalent. These Native Americans publicly demonstrated their status by the copper they wore. Pierced copper pieces hung around the neck or on the arms and distinguished indigenous “Noble Men” from the “meaner sort”



    (Quinn 1955:103). Elite Algonquian warriors received copper from their superiors in return for exceptional military service. Many of these tribes also frequently offered copper to their deities (Rountree 1989:133). In addition, the presence of copper in Chesapeake Algonquian burials served as a hierarchical distinction separating those individuals whose spirits were believed to live forever from others whose souls would expire following their corporeal death. Copper acquisition, display, and tribute ensured hegemonic gains and prevented the squandering of a person’s spiritual essence (Mallios 1998).



    It both reflected and created status. There was no material good in Algonquian society that was superior or even equal in value to copper. The English learned quickly at Roanoke Island in the 1580s of the supreme value the local natives placed on copper alloys. Roanoke’s Ralph Lane reported to the Reverend Richard Hakluyt in a 1585 correspondence that for the local Algonquian population, “copper carieth ye price of all” (Quinn 1955:209).


    Thirty years later, Jamestown’s John Smith noted that, “for a copper kettle. . . [the Powhatans] will sell you a whole Countrey”

    (Barbour 1986 III:276). Contemporary playwrights George Chapman, Ben Johnson, and John Marston immortalized the value of copper as a trade good in early 17 th-century America



    in their 1605


    Eastward Ho. They wrote, “for as much red



    copper as I can bring [to North America] I’ll have thrice the



    weight in gold” (27-28). Lessons learned from the failed English



    attempts at colonizing the Carolinas led the outfitters of



    the Jamestown venture to insist that those aboard the


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    Demand, Supply, and Elasticity in the Copper Trade at Early Jamestown”



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    , the Godspeed, and the Susan Constant bring copper to the



    Americas in the form of “10 seven-inch squares and 5 seveninch



    circles, 20 six-inch circles and 10 six-inch circles, 40



    four-inch squares and 20 four-inch circles, [and] 100 threeinch



    squares” (Quinn 1977:432-34).



    The Monacans, an indigenous group to the west of the



    Powhatan chiefdom, played an important role in the copper



    exchange of the Chesapeake. Although historical records



    chronicled little of Powhatan/Monacan relations during the



    16


    th and 17th centuries, they indicated that when the English



    arrived at Jamestown Island the Powhatans and Monacans



    were adversaries. With no indigenous copper source in his



    own territory, Chief Powhatan relied on exchange with natives



    in the Great Lakes region, western North Carolina, and



    nearby Monacan territory, all of whom tapped copper sources.



    In 1607, the arrival of the English and of their many copper



    goods gave Chief Powhatan an opportunity to rid himself of



    his “political dependence” on antagonistic Monacan neighbors



    (Hantman 1990:685). Abundant English copper could



    free him from being indebted to the Monacans along his



    western border. Powhatan could potentially bolster his intrachiefdom



    power as well by controlling the flow of copper



    within his territory.



    Chesapeake Algonquians likely allowed English intrusions



    into their homeland because of access to copper from apparently



    amicable sources. The Europeans’ plentiful copper



    stores gave the natives an opportunity to exchange with individuals



    other than antagonistic neighbors. Coincidentally,



    one of England’s goals in settling the Americas was to free



    itself from material dependence on nearby European rivals.



    Hakluyt discussed in his writings an English desire to avoid



    economic restraints in 1578. He asserted that, “[England]



    should not depend on Spain for oil, sacks, resins, oranges,



    lemons, Spanish skins, c. Nor upon France for woad [wood],



    basalt, and Gascoyne wines, nor on Eastland for flax, pitch, tar,



    masts, & . . . we should, by our own industries and the benefits



    of the soil there [the Americas], cheaply purchase oils, wines,



    salt, fruits, pitch, tar, flax, hemp, masts, boards, fish, gold, silver,



    copper, tallow, hides, and many commodities” ( Jehlen and



    Warner 1997:58). During this time, England was economically



    a colony of the European continent (Wallerstein 1974 I:228).



    Just as the English came to America in the hopes of freeing



    themselves from economic dependence on political adversaries,



    they unknowingly offered the Algonquians a chance for the



    same sort of relief.




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    #2- Anytime a cob is found it has to rate high in my book..........Sept.30,2011
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...tml#msg3040756
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    The trade ring #3- Only knowing it was a ring & had to be early on the site I found it the 18th century trade ring was a first for me & cool find.
    Oct.20,2011........
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...tml#msg3067281
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    The buckle being one of the neatest colonial buckles I've found,makes it a cool find also.It didn't want to show it self a gave me a fit cleaning it.......the story behind this find.................
    Mar.18,2011..........
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...tml#msg2770947
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    Re: 2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    The two whole mid-rib spoons was nice to finally find a whole one & two in one day made it even better.
    July 25,2011..........
    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...tml#msg2916020
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    Re: 2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    And last but not all of 2011-The Rev.War sword.............Found sortly after we moved to our new home in the shed out back stuck between a 2x4 & the wall of the shed.
    http://www.swordforum.com/forums/sho...Rev.-War-sword

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    presidential campaign items, 1860 JOHN BELL-EDWARD EVERETT tin type pic token, 1888 Benjamin Harrison pin. 1876 CENTENNIAL REVOLUTIONARY WAR MEDAL WITH BARON VON STEUBEN AND GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON. CW RELICS 1864 Union store card,3 I,1 R, eagle buttons

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    Re: 2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    that is a killer year!! MR TUFF
    oldest dug 1784 half real, 1831 William IIII. 1844 1/6 Skilling. 1834,51,54,72,76cc,77,84-87,89,92,93o,94o,96,97-99o,1900o-11,13 Dimes. 1854,56,76s,94,99,1902,06,09d,11,15s Qtrs. 1864,65 2cent. 79,83cc Morgan. 1867,68,69,70,75,82,87,88,90,91,93,95,97,98,1900,0 2,04-09,11,12d Nickles. 1848,56,59,61,63-69,73-75,81-85-09 Cent.

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    Re: 2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    pretty sweet finds!

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    Re: 2011 Best Six For Me (Part 1)

    The Sword is killer
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