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    Dear sellers on ebay

    Dear sellers on ebay,

    Since joining ebay about six months ago, I've been receiving feedback from about 40% of sellers. Do sellers expect buyers to leave the initial feedback? If so, tough luck.

    As a buyer, once payment has been transferred from my bank Account to the seller's bank or paypal account, and I have provided a shipping address, my obligation as a buyer has been satisfied.

    At this point, the seller should leave feedback.

    Feedback is important for both seller and buyer in establishing credibility and trustworthiness on ebay. As most experienced ebayers know, ebay is full of dishonest sellers looking to separate a gullible buyer from his wallet. For every reputable seller there's a crook.

    I am also aware that there are 'buyers' who play games. Winning an auction and not paying. What's up with that?

    Any thoughts from the ebayers here? Perhaps the sellers have their own perspective on the matter?

    Regards,

    JG
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    When I sell something I leave feedback about a week after the item has been received. I don't sell much anymore though.

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    CC: smokeythecat

    I don't have a paypal account. I pay with a credit card. Apparently, some sellers want me to "mark an item as received." This can only be done from a paypal account, so I cannot oblige.

    JG
    A discussion is not a discussion when it begins and ends with '1' opinion.

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    I've been selling for around 20 years and don't leave feedback most of the time. It is a waste of time. When Ebay started buyers or sellers could leave bad feedback. Now, only buyers can leave bad feedback. Buyers that scam sellers or don't pay can't be left bad feedback. I had a buyer that bought a motorcycle, supposed to put a $500 deposit within 48 hours. He finally sent a Paypal deposit a week later from a stolen paypal account. He had bought 5 motorcycles that week and a $400 motorcycle jacket. Paid for all of them with a stolen account. Fortunately, only the guy that had the jacket sent the item. He lost his $400 jacket. The buyer still had 100% positive feedback years after that scam. Feedback is a complete waste of time... P.S. My seller feedback is 100%.

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    CC: Indian Steve

    As they say, there are always two sides to a story. Is that true? A seller cannot leave 'bad' feedback? That doesn't seem fair or good business for ebay. I can understand why some sellers might not bother.

    Regardless, it seems that feedback 'is' very important. I look at the feedback score before dealing with a seller. If a seller has a 98 and many complaints about slow shipping etc., I quickly move on.

    I notice some sellers seem to leave automated feedback. The feedback appears immediately after payment.

    Thanks for your perspective. It was an eye-opener.

    Regards,

    JG
    A discussion is not a discussion when it begins and ends with '1' opinion.

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    I don't consider the transaction complete until I know the buyer is satisfied, therefore no feedback until I hear from the buyer. When I purchase an item I leave feedback as soon as I receive it and am satisfied that it is as described.
    Last edited by flinthunter; Oct 16, 2020 at 08:32 PM.

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    I have been on Ebay 21 years. Really. The only time I got the bad end of a stick is when I bought something I thought was fine to find out a long time later something was the matter with it. It's only happened 3 times in 21 years.
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    My advice, don't get hung up on feedback and proceed according to how you think you should proceed either as a seller or buyer, without regards to how others manage fb

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xraywolf View Post
    My advice, don't get hung up on feedback and proceed according to how you think you should proceed either as a seller or buyer, without regards to how others manage fb

    Slow shipping is the only real beef I've ever had with sellers. When someone ships my purchase two or three weeks after payment, I find it annoying and disrespectful. However, I've never left bad feedback for anyone. I simply leave no feedback when I am displeased and give no repeat business. I'm very loyal to sellers with whom I've had a good experience.

    I think everyone has made valid points thus far, and I am taking everything under advisement. Thank you!

    JG
    A discussion is not a discussion when it begins and ends with '1' opinion.

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    I just do Ebay honestly as a buyer or seller. I don't play stupid reindeer games as the old joke goes! My history is perfect there. I buy way more than I sell, and when I do sell I ship the next day and always priority mail. Anything expensive has to be signed for by the buyer. Once when someone left me bad feedback, only once in 21 years, and this was a few years ago before the rules changed, and frankly I don't remember if it was something I bought or sold, but I called Ebay, I have the conceirge service, they like me, and they removed the feedback immediately. If I half remember correctly it was a slam dunk, and the evidence did support me.

    I've only had one package arrive with contents remove. It was a couple years ago. Kinda odd too, package only traveled 75 miles to the destination, in transit one day and the buyer said someone opened it and removed the contents.

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    I won't do business with a seller who sends items by 'signature confirmed' registered mail. When buying overseas, I always ask in advance before hitting the buy or bid button. My first purchase on ebay was a button from a seller in Spain. They sent it by registered mail and I am never home to sign for it. I can't go to the Post Office (for reasons you might surmise [NJ]. This button has crossed the Atlantic three times! I finally told the seller to keep the button and keep my money. I would make no complaint and leave no feedback.

    If it was a 14k Revolutionary War Cannon, I could understand sending it by registered mail. But a $50 button?

    JG
    A discussion is not a discussion when it begins and ends with '1' opinion.

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    Jacob, $50 button, no, $500 button you sign or go home empty handed. I leave the signed little pinkish slip in the mailbox and they deliver it the next day. I have never had anything stolen here.
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    I have received two or three hundred dollar items from sellers on ebay who didn't require signature confirmation of receipt. However, I can understand and appreciate how a seller might want such confirmation when significant sums or items of value are involved. Unfortunately, there are many dishonest people in the world who might falsely claim they did not receive an item, and that it was lost or stolen.

    The 2nd example of that '1' button (Spanish) discovered by a member here, was for sale from that one seller I will not do business with. What an unfortunate coincidence...lol

    JG
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    I suppose you know that ebayer seller can't leave negative feedback. As professional seller i have put the option on leave a feedback automatically after payment received.

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    Quote Originally Posted by betelges View Post
    I suppose you know that ebayer seller can't leave negative feedback. As professional seller i have put the option on leave a feedback automatically after payment received.
    Another seller pointed that out in this thread. Personally, I think it's unfair that a seller cannot leave negative feedback for a buyer. I have heard stories of 'buyers' who win items in an auction and then do not pay. And that such buyers often repeat this behaviour. A form of harassment and vandalism in my estimation.

    I do know that a seller can submit a complaint against a buyer to ebay which can have serious implications for that buyer's account.

    I appreciate sellers like you who leave automated feedback. I always return the favour with perfect feedback. I either leave great feedback, or no feedback at all.

    Best regards,

    JG
    A discussion is not a discussion when it begins and ends with '1' opinion.

 

 
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