a couple of shell gorgets

[Mooch]

Picked these up about a year ago. Don't know much about them just know that we didn't have any. One if from Fort Recovery, Ohio and the other is from Illinois.

[The Grim Reaper]

They are Glacial Kame Sandal Sole Gorgets and very nice ones at that.

[jeff a]

i agree with steve,very nice kame sandle sole gorgets

[rockman0_12]

Nice gorgets, look to be fairly large.

[Mooch]

There both over 7 inches long. I don't have exact measurements at the moment

[archaeon]

those are interesting.
what are the letters on the upper half of the left one? they are upside down and running diagonally. .... is it Kahokia? yes, i just checked and i think it says that. just curious, why is that written/carved on there?

[fossis]

Very nice, I've never seen any around here, but I have a 'mussel shell hoe', with a hole drilled for a handle.

Fossis..................

[archaeon]

the second pic brought up some questions in my mind:
1. are they replicas?
2. the left one in the second pic has Kahokia written on it, did it come from the museum gift shop?
3. they are from different places, but the drilling on them seems to be exactly the same. i noticed the drill holes don't seem to be beveled at all, and some of the drill holes have heat halos, common in shell that was drilled with a modern drill bit. which would be par for the course for replicas.

[Mooch]

No they are not replics. They are both pictured in a book on Glacial Kame while they were in the Meyer Collection. Fort Recovery was one of the few sites in Ohio that produced several shell gorgets. The Kahokia on the other one refers to Cahokia Mounds in Illinois. The spelling with a K is attributed to a collection that was formed in Madison and St. Clair County's in Illinois in the late 1800's which was purchased by one of Edward Paynes buyers prior to 1936 when the Payne collection was sold. These piece were purchased at the Payne sale by Richard K. Meyer a business man from Peoria. They were in his family for over 70 years when we purchased them from a heir of the family. The drilling looking the same looks very similar to most Glacial Kame Shell Gorgets which would lead one to believe that they were possible made by a select group of people in Ohio and then a few examples where traded to other areas.

[archaeon]

thanks for the reply...

[Flintfinder of Mo.]

Nik, i see the heat halos you are talking about. It makes more sence to me that they being shell, that a mordern bit would rip right threw them with out ever getting them hot. Were as the old School way would seem to warm em up .. Dont know really. Mooch Thanks for sharing some of the rare relics you have. John

[seger98]

I'm just starting to learn the things I've seen in the area of T-Net, All of the people I've seen respond on here seem to be VERY knowledgeable! You guys sure know your stuff!

[pickaway]

Wow those are nice...

[archaeon]

Mooch,
i apologise if i seemed skeptical in my posts. your artfacts are amazing, awesome!

[Airborne80]

Awesome!! here is a dumb question but.... what were they used for?