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  1. #1
    Lindenmeier sEEker

    Apr 2006
    El Paso, TX
    Flippin Stick n good luck :)
    2,020
    Banner Finds (2)

    Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE

    k, , so last night im with some family memembers just relaxing and whe i go to sleep i have a dream of me finding some exotic cerimonial pieces, very finley worked. so when i wake up i mess around online, and decide shoot, i might as well go out. so i pick a spot i been eyeballin 4 some time now, and for about 2 hours nothing, some chips is all. it gets dark here early so im bummed out, beeen having a rough few months, so i start heading back . and low and behold just laying there, this amazing piece..... i was like OMG, lol, yessssssssssssssssss. my camera is broke so i used a friends , these are the best pics i could come up with for now. also, i have never in my life picked up such a nice perfected piece. the base is lightly ground, has such delicate but perfect shoulders, the serrations are nice and get micro towards the needle tip,seems to have been resharpened, it has collateral flaking , median ridged, "looks like a diamond when looking straight down it" exactly 3 1/2 inchs long. all in all its awwwwwwwww
    Im going with Firstview on this one, maybe a Eden, both pretty rare in this area, my BEST PIECE PERIOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! WHOOP WHOOP

    Some history on this point : being Eden/Firstview, it comes from the Scottsbluff cluster=Scottsbluff, Cody,Eden,Firstview. These paleoindian people would have probaly been following big game, such as extinct bison. Some of the best information has come from bison kill sites where these tools were recovered. This particular point has all of the characteristics of a Eden/Firstview. Probaly was used as a spear or flung from a atlatl http://www.onagocag.com/atlatl.html. My personal opinion this projectile would have suporior penetrating power, size, weight thickness, it would be the perfect tool for bringing down big game. Here is a little writing on the Eden published by Noel d. Justice that i found very accurate and informative to this projectile.
    " The Eden points some of the most controlled and best executed flitnapping of all paleoindian projectile point types. All edges are closely aligned and near perfect symmetry is observed on every part of the typical Eden point. Wormington's description noted resemblance to Scottsbluff but focused on traits such as a narrower blade width relative to length, parallel pressure flaking , smaller shoulders, pronounced median ridge, and a diamond shaped cross section. The shoulder/haft juncture may be marked only by the termination of laterial grinding and a very slight edge in contour. The fine pressure flaking and diamond-shaped cross section are the most prominate traits that seperate Eden from Scottsbluff. The haft element was produces with fine pressure retouch and the basal edge flaking often produces a triangular flaking pattern emanating from the basal margins to the midline. ( see in photos) .
    Now why the base is clipped how it is i have no idea, but i still believe it was intentional.

    One more thing, a good friend called me and told me this morning, you did not find that point , it found you.... Being at my lowest point in my life , and thinking there is no way out or back up, God/Someone knows my love of archaeology and i was brought to it. This piece represents a moment in my life when i thought i would never get up, after finding this, i know there are good things out there and hope is still possible. In all honesty i believe this is going to be a turning point for the better in my life I was supposed to start school for archi this semester, but some very dramatic changes in my life has forced me to put school on hold. I read and study as much as i can on my free time of the subject, its absolutly amazing.

    If anyone has any other info they would like to cover on the point type/history, feel free to fill me/us in. Thanks
    Chong
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst1.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst2.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst3.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst5.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst7.jpg  

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  2. #2
    Lindenmeier sEEker

    Apr 2006
    El Paso, TX
    Flippin Stick n good luck :)
    2,020
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst8.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst9.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst10.jpg   Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "Día Negro" UPDATE-zfirst11.jpg  
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  3. #3
    gb
    Feb 2008
    England.
    2,731
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    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Outstanding.

  4. #4
    us
    Jun 2009
    Central Pennsylvania
    1,371

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    !!!!!!!!!!!!!

  5. #5
    us
    Jun 2009
    Weston, FL
    818
    5 times

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Beautiful looking piece!

    Definately Banner worthy.

  6. #6
    us
    Oct 2008
    163

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    awsome find can u post picks of some of the other stuff u found their .

  7. #7
    us
    Oct 2008
    Great Plains
    295
    4 times

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!


    Beautiful Eden/Firstview!

    I have never seen one with the fine serrations. And yes, its a banner specimen.

    11KBP

  8. #8
    Lindenmeier sEEker

    Apr 2006
    El Paso, TX
    Flippin Stick n good luck :)
    2,020
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    thanks all!!! and sorry shop dog, thats all i found today
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  9. #9
    us
    Apr 2008
    Southern Ohio
    3,221
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (4)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Very, very nice point chong. Is the base made like that or does it have a little damage? Either way it's a spectacular piece and gets my vote for the banner.
    "Welcome back my friends, to the show that never ends."

  10. #10
    us
    Jun 2009
    Central Pennsylvania
    1,371

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Burin flaking is surprisingly common on points of that era. From the symmetry of it, intentional.

  11. #11

    Feb 2007
    533

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    wow,that is perfect jamey

  12. #12

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    What a fantastic piece, one of the best finds I've seen in a while. Great Firstview, congrats!



  13. #13

    May 2006
    3

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    wow .........perfect piece ,it doesnt look chipped on the bottom beacuase both sides are tapperd ....great find man .banner worthy

  14. #14
    us
    Nov 2004
    Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505
    613

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Awesome Find!!!
    BH 505
    4"  Coil
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    10" Coil

  15. #15
    us
    Jun 2009
    Central Pennsylvania
    1,371

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    Patinated obsidian ?

  16. #16
    us
    Jan 2009
    »»--------->
    3,203

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    I'm surprised at the lack of patina and mineralization for a 10,000 year old piece great find.
    " Stay frosty, gents "

  17. #17
    Lindenmeier sEEker

    Apr 2006
    El Paso, TX
    Flippin Stick n good luck :)
    2,020
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!!

    lol, trust me its real.......unless some salter has nothing better to do than put 1 piece in a very unique place.... its the material that it resided in, preserves it perfectly, in all honesty i have never really found a pice with much patina on it, very few
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  18. #18
    Lindenmeier sEEker

    Apr 2006
    El Paso, TX
    Flippin Stick n good luck :)
    2,020
    Banner Finds (2)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

    sorry 4 all the posts, but uni, i think it might be obs, i dunno im not a geo guy, ill find out 4 sure and let u know, the edeges are translucent in light, so possibly. all obs i have ever seen is always shiny, no matter what
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  19. #19
    seger98

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

    Beautiful piece & congratulaions on making the banner, it's truely worthy!

  20. #20
    us
    Sep 2006
    lost in Wisconsin
    Tesoro - Cortez Minelab SE
    1,118
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Made my YEAR:) :) :) woooooha!!! when i found "día negro"

    I totally understand how finding points like that could get addictive...
    I noticed that no-one really utilizes all the signature space provided, so I figured to be REALLY original I would make up the longest signature that I could and probably just leave it as one big run on sentence because all that punctuation just takes up way too much space-HH.

 

 
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