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Jan 18, 2010, 08:09 PM
#1
A definitive call
As my clearing of energy continues I'd love for someone to give me a final answer/closure to a couple of finds, please and thank you
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Jan 19, 2010, 07:45 AM
#2
Re: A definitive call
The piece was stopped in production. The stone was going to be some kind of a grooved stone head. The grove was for hafting onto a wood handle. The maker realized, after the initial spall on the right popped off, that his efforts were going to be wasted. This was especially true, considering the other faults in the stone. With this new information, he (and I say he because it was likely a he) abandoned the project.
Is that what you were looking for?
Best Regards,
3creeks
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Jan 19, 2010, 09:49 AM
#3
Re: A definitive call
your welcome, vibes
PS. The other red rock is just a geofact; which is just a unique natural stone, not altered by man.
3creeks
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Jan 20, 2010, 07:00 PM
#4
Re: A definitive call
Still pretty cool to find it. It seems they broke a lot during production. What area/country did you find it in?
HH
TnMountains
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Feb 08, 2010, 07:33 AM
#5
Re: A definitive call
 Originally Posted by TripleCreek
The piece was stopped in production. The stone was going to be some kind of a grooved stone head. The grove was for hafting onto a wood handle. The maker realized, after the initial spall on the right popped off, that his efforts were going to be wasted. This was especially true, considering the other faults in the stone. With this new information, he (and I say he because it was likely a he) abandoned the project.
Is that what you were looking for?
Best Regards,
3creeks
i agree
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Feb 08, 2010, 08:57 AM
#6
Re: A definitive call
From your photo, I would not rule out the possibility that the grooved piece was made as a maul, and never intended to be an axe. If that is the case, it is a finished artifact.
I found a 3/4 grooved maul in northern Pennsylvania the summer before last. It clearly was made as such, and indeed was more crudely fashioned than one would see in most grooved axes. I guess finesse is not needed when one is crafting the Native American equivalent of a sledge hammer.
artorius
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Feb 08, 2010, 09:47 AM
#7
Re: A definitive call
It may very well be a maul. Probably is, even, IMO.
But the groove in it is odd -- very narrow in relation to width, and round at the bottom. This at least isn't your usual hafting groove. Maybe it's a special kind for tying it with thongs. Or maybe they were using it, year in and year out, as a shaft smoother ?
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Feb 08, 2010, 01:19 PM
#8
Re: A definitive call
If I was able to go back through my life and see, in an omniscient way, the coins that I did not dig because I just wasn’t sure about the signal, or the trophy buck that held close to cover while I walked by, never seeing, or the true story of just how this rock developed this unusual grove, it would be a version of heaven for me. I doubt I ever will have the opportunity, but it would be really fun to see where I was right and wrong. I responded to this topic with a little “tongue in cheek” because Vibe ask for “a definitive call” and I gave it to her. Truth is, it is very unlikely anyone will ever know, not even me, just what the circumstances were that actually were responsible for creating the unusual grove in this rock . I believe that my explanation is plausible, but there are an infinite alterative explanations available. For instance: A kid made the grove, practicing primitive technology, a month before Vibe found it. (Come to think of it, the grooving area does look a little “fresher” then any other grooved axes I have found ??) See what I mean.
I certainly hope this “mudding the water” does not take away the “ching” that Vibes was looking for (sorry if it does, Vibes) but it sure is fun to speculate.
Stay cool,
3creeks
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Feb 16, 2010, 12:13 PM
#9
 I breed scarlet and gray
Re: A definitive call
i guess the only definitive call you can make on this peice is that it is a hardstone artifact with a groove in it.cool relic vibes.
aint gonna find any heads sittin on the couch
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