a complete pot, Mandan culture, ...and owl faces

[larson1951]

I posted this a year ago but thought it would be good to show again
I was lucky to find almost all the pieces
larson1951

[Americus]

Wow! Fantastic find. Tell us the story.

[The Grim Reaper]

Very nice larson. Is that a lug handle right under the series of cut marks or is it a face effigy?

[quito]

That was a GREAT find Larson. Way to go!

Joel

[larson1951]

HEY Quito, Americus, and SRV,

SRV, that IS a face effigy and I will tell the story tonite when I get back in the house
I really appreciate the replies and thanks in advance for more

Larson1951

[Molly.]

Excellent find..Thanks for sharin'

Molly.

[chong2]

waiting 4 story

[larson1951]

OK thanks,
this washed out of a steep bank after a heavy rain on my land
I actually think I could have found ALL of the pieces if I had known from the start what I ran across
I feel very lucky to have found this
can you see the owl faces on the side in two of the images?
I found a couple other rim pieces with owl faces on them
my wife does not like the owl pieces because an owl has a bad meaning to the sioux and cheyenne
I don't think the crow like them either
I have quite a few friends from the sioux, cheyenne, and crow nations
also have some cree nation friends from Canada just north of the dakotas and montana
I feel very lucky to have so many native friends
I forgot about my french canadian friends, the Ojibwa, or as the white people call them, the Chippewa
larson1951

[larson1951]

here are two owl faces
I had posted them before but I thought I should show them here again

[Fla-Gal]

Larson, beautiful find. Has anyone dated it for you ? We so NEVER get tired of seeing your treasures !!!

[uniface]

[SoIll]

The owls are upside down.
The tips of the wings are the v's to the left and the right, and the dots are the breast and underside of the wings.

At least that's what I'm seeing.
Nice pot Larson.

[Lone Star]

Larson, Man thats nice. Thanks for the show and tell. G.

[coteau]

Truly a great find! Pottery sherds are extremely abundant on village sites in the Dakotas, but I bet less than 200 (?) complete or nearly complete vessels have been found.

Good thing you found it when you did... I would imagine that it could have been destroyed if you didn't find it soon after it eroded from the bank...

Cool owl faces too...thanks!

[larson1951]

thanks you guys,
no one has tried to date it for me
I wonder who could date it for me?
lars

[Flintfinder of Mo.]

Larson, what a great, great find. I would put finding something like that up there with finding a Clovis. (for me anyway)
You post some amazing finds. I dont get to comment nearly enough as on them, but I should because they are great, and some very rare.
I think SO ILL might be on to something, cause I can see the owls being upside down also. I can really see them both ways, but upside down it seems like i can see more of the bird. AS far as dating it, i bet Matt could get you in the ball park. I'd P.M him and ask for his opinion.
Thanks for the look, you have a wonderful spot on your hands. I lovd the bone birds also. Take care.
John

[larson1951]

hey john thanks very much
it is an honor to receive so many compliments on these posts
i am very glad to know about this forum and communicate with so many good people
i can't wait to log on to this site several times each day and look at so many amazing finds
i am glad that you like the pot
i hope i can find some more
i am going to talk to matt
sincerely,
larson1951