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  1. #1
    us
    Jan 2010
    west viginia
    333

    1st insitu pic. need some info.

    i have taken several insitu pics with my phone, this is the first time i had my camera. what i was wondering about was the skinny black point. is that a thinning flake taken out of the bottom or could it be a wee little flute. i have nothing like it to compare to. probably just wishful thinkin. if anyone has any advice or even similar pics , i would appreciate it. thanks [attach5]
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1113.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1114.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1116.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1117.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1119.jpg  


  2. #2
    us
    Jan 2009
    Austin T.X.
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    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Great insitu......wonderful.....thanx for the view.
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  3. #3
    us
    Apr 2008
    Southern Ohio
    3,222
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (4)

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Any grinding one the base? It doesn't look like it from the pictures but you can't always see everything in a picture. The Paleo Indians loved that black Coshocton Flint so it just might be a Late Paleo/Early Archaic type piece. It's a nice find either way.
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  4. #4
    us
    Aug 2009
    Blue ridge mts, Virginia
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Very interesting point, great insitu. Thanks for the look.H.H.

  5. #5
    pickaway

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Real nice find...

  6. #6
    us
    Mar 2009
    506
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Could you kindly post a picture of both sides. This way we can all get a look at its manufacture and give you a better clue..............So far that is looking like a flute, could be a thinning flute though. If you show both sides we all get a better look at the auricles and see if there is possible break or thinning and see if it is made that way................it is a nice find...................thanks .........................GTP

  7. #7
    us
    Jun 2010
    5

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Musky,
    Nice shot. Incredible piece. I usually don't have the patience or discipline to get the pic before the point!
    Great work.
    PG

  8. #8
    I want to start a new life with my valuable hunting knife.

    May 2007
    1,029

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Killer find! Nice pic too.

    Congrats,

    Chuck
    I want to start a new life with my valuable hunting knife.

  9. #9
    us
    Jun 2009
    Weston, FL
    818
    5 times

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.


    Great find, and cool pictures.

    If you look at your pictures you can see the ripples in the flake are angled a bit, which to me indicates that it was a thinning flake vs an intentional flute.

    This picture kind of shows what I mean, the flake was taken from an angle vs a flute which is usually taken in the middle of the piece, strait up the axis of the biface.
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1st insitu pic. need some info.-picture.jpg  

  10. #10
    us
    Jan 2010
    west viginia
    333

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    thanks for all the kind words and help. here are some pics of the other side. [attach7]
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1131.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1136.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1135.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1134.jpg   1st insitu pic. need some info.-sany1133.jpg  

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  11. #11
    us
    Jan 2009
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    3,203

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Very nice find and artifact musky.
    " Stay frosty, gents "

  12. #12
    us
    Jan 2009
    South
    6,613
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    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    A beauty and the thinning strike that went ouch gives it some history. Rare and nice.
    Thanks for sharing sir.

  13. #13
    gb
    Feb 2008
    England.
    2,731
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    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Nobody knows what type it is then?

    Molly.

  14. #14
    us
    Jan 2009
    »»--------->
    3,203

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Quote Originally Posted by Molly
    Nobody knows what type it is then?

    Molly.
    Kind of hard to confidently put that piece into a specific type. Personally I'd call it a late paleo to early archaic knife or preform from just looking at a 2d picture, jmo. It's something you'd have to study in hand to give an honest appraisal I think.
    " Stay frosty, gents "

  15. #15
    us
    Apr 2009
    cookeville
    467

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    i really like blades like that, maybe a Copena round base? 4000-1200 b.p.?
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  16. #16
    us
    Land of Jelly Bellies, Home of the Bottom Buddy

    Dec 2007
    The Queen City
    Minelab Explorer II
    589
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Personally I think that flute channel is the result of an undesirable "stack" the maker wanted to jettison. You see these flutes all the time on early archaic pieces
    Attached Thumbnails Attached Thumbnails 1st insitu pic. need some info.-img_2974.jpg  

  17. #17
    gb
    Feb 2008
    England.
    2,731
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    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Thanks for the info guys. Interesting. First time I have seen a fluted notched point.

    Molly.

  18. #18
    gb
    Feb 2008
    England.
    2,731
    1 times

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    I was very curious about his blade. I asked a friend of mine that has been collecting & studying for many many years & he said It's basal thining not fluting. Ovate blade or preform.
    Still a killer find Musky Congrats..

    Molly.

  19. #19
    us
    May 2010
    Parkerburg, WV
    53
    Relic Hunting

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    Your camara takes better pics. of musky. Nice stuff there I can't wait til its in my hand !!!

  20. #20
    us
    Jun 2009
    Central Pennsylvania
    1,371

    Re: 1st insitu pic. need some info.

    My guess (FWIW) is that it's a re-base : the snapped-off blade section of a hafted point that was long enough to coax some further use out of by thinning the base enough to re-haft it. It's a strategy that goes back at least to Dalton times.

 

 
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