'05 gunflints and points

[Twitch]

Littlekan - Attached are a couple I found back in 2005. The grey one is from North Carolina, the white one from Ohio. I don't have separate pictures in them so I'm posting one of 2005 cases.

[wilycreek]

Love the serrated points. Wish there was gunflints around here (caps don't last to long on the ground). Thanks for posting.

[The Grim Reaper]

Nice looking trays of artifacts. That Stemmed Lancelot at the top center is a really nice Point.

[Twitch]

Thanks SRV. I believe the top center point is a Copena. It's not the classic shield shape, but still not uncommon for Copena. It's a somewhat common type in the area where found. When I found it though, with one edge exposed, I thought I had found something very old. Now, I don't believe it's that old.

[The Grim Reaper]

Is there any grinding at all on the base? It sure looks like a classic Ohio Lance type point to me.

[Twitch]

SRV - No grinding. I agree it is more an outline of a paleo lance. And I found it on a very productive multi-component site. It's produced for me Dalton, Kirk, Big Sandy, Dovetail, Benton, Adena, Hopewell, Intrusive Mound, and Madison points. I may be wrong. Next show or meeting I go I'll bring the point and try to collect some other opinions on it. I'm telling you when I found it my heart skipped about 3 beats as I thought it was Paleo, but the flaking, lack of grinding and area found make me think Copena. If I found it further North, out of normal Copena distribution I don't know what I'd call it. As always I appreciate the input.

Thanks,
Joe

[Molly.]

The black serrated point looks like black ryholite. Like the serrated.
Thats a nice lookin frame Twitch.

Molly.

[Th3rty7]

Nice frame of personal finds there Twitch. The centerpiece drill form is killer, what are you typing that piece as?

[pickaway]

Nice frame...

[Twitch]

Rose - The black serrated point is Kanawha flint. It's a lower grade from Ohio/WV.

Th3rty7 - I was hoping you'd tell me something about the center point. It base a little basal grinding and some basal thining. I found it in WV. I thought it may be Kessel related. People here in Illinois have told me it's a Neuberger but I don't know. It's one of the 4 or 5 best pieces I've ever found.

[Th3rty7]

Rose - The black serrated point is Kanawha flint. It's a lower grade from Ohio/WV.

Th3rty7 - I was hoping you'd tell me something about the center point. It base a little basal grinding and some basal thining. I found it in WV. I thought it may be Kessel related. People here in Illinois have told me it's a Neuberger but I don't know. It's one of the 4 or 5 best pieces I've ever found.

I thought some looked like WV stuff. I'd throw Meadowood into the mix as well because of the placement of the notches and general shape of the piece. Just my 2 cents.

[Tnmountains]

Is there any grinding at all on the base? It sure looks like a classic Ohio Lance type point to me.

Could it not be an eastern stemmed lanceolate ? I have one similiar somewhere that I just never could stick an ID on. Nice frames. I would enjoy finding some gun flint.
Is it all imported?
Nice frame,,
TnMtns