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  1. #1

    Jan 2007
    Texas Poast Oak Savannah
    bounty hunter 505
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    carved stone whats it

    My Dad found this 20 or 30 years ago in a steep clay bank along the Trinity river about 30 miles south of Dallas We have always wondered what it is and what it was used for . Along with this artifact he also found a few arrow heads in same location. Any help Identifying this item would be appreciated.
    Thanks Dan
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    The Cesspool

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    Re: carved stone whats it

    Maybe a gorget. I've seen similar ones made of granite and phorphery in the "knoblock collection".Here's a couple other examples-
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  3. #3

    Dec 2006
    242

    Re: carved stone whats it

    GORGET

  4. #4

    Jan 2007
    Texas Poast Oak Savannah
    bounty hunter 505
    22

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Thanks for the replies, we thought of that the only thing is the back of this item is carved out evenly the whole length, As it to fit over something . Were the gorgets worn with holes horizontal or vertical.
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  5. #5
    pickaway

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Looks like a drilled boatstone to me.

  6. #6

    Jan 2007
    Texas Poast Oak Savannah
    bounty hunter 505
    22

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Quote Originally Posted by pickaway
    Looks like a drilled boatstone to me.
    Thanks again I did some more research and found similar one on google Looks like we have a match http://www.ou.edu/cas/archsur/OKArtifacts/boatstone.htm
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  7. #7

    Nov 2006
    22

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Not saying its not a boatstone, but where is the curves and why the holes

  8. #8

    Jul 2006
    Wisconsin
    1,551

    Re: carved stone whats it

    IMO it's a "boatstone" - used as a counter balance on an atl-atl.
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  9. #9
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    Re: carved stone whats it

    You guys know more than me.I'm just throwing out "maybe's."
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  10. #10
    us
    Dec 2006
    East Coast
    122

    Re: carved stone whats it

    To me it looks like an Atlatl Weight. I have seen the same thing as you originally posted but without the holes. The ones I saw had notches on the outer curve to accommodate sinew to tie it to the Atlatl staff or handle. The inside curve would sit flat to the Staff-Handle.

    This is a weight like the gorgets are said to be. This is a small weight compared to the heavier Gorget. When I say Gorget I mean the butterfly type with a tube drilled through.

    Here is a diagram I made.
    Hope it helps.
    ~Zeawolf~
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  11. #11

    Jan 2007
    Texas Poast Oak Savannah
    bounty hunter 505
    22

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Quote Originally Posted by COII Roadrunner
    Not saying its not a boatstone, but where is the curves and why the holes
    After reading t
    he article on this page I guess may be it was also used as a charm.
    http://www.ou.edu/cas/archsur/OKArtifacts/boatstone.htm
    The real Treasure is the time you spend with friends and family digging up all the junk and trying to figure out what you have found.

  12. #12
    Atlantis0077

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Morning,

    Right on the money again Cannonman. Definitely a "boatstone"....aka atlatl weight. It looks like a gorget, but most of those are flat with two holes and not curved.

    It fit against the atlatl stick to offer weight or counterbalance. Those things were apparently precious to owners for the boatstons are usually quite elaborate and labor intensive. I have never found one....kinda jealous. Congrats on a really nice piece of history.

    Atlantis

  13. #13

    Jul 2006
    Wisconsin
    1,551

    Re: carved stone whats it

    Quote Originally Posted by dadzilla
    Quote Originally Posted by COII Roadrunner
    Not saying its not a boatstone, but where is the curves and why the holes
    After reading t
    he article on this page I guess may be it was also used as a charm.
    http://www.ou.edu/cas/archsur/OKArtifacts/boatstone.htm
    Primary function was as a counter balance for an atl-atl - all about physics. Any secondary purposes they may have had (such as also being a good luck piece or charm) would have been coincidental at best and while entirely possilbe, perhaps even likely, there's really no way to prove it. One might argue about the more intricate and effigy types, birdstone and the pop eyes in particular seem a bit fancy to be used stricly as a counter balance but then again maybe the were showing off their skill as craftsmen, or maybe they were representations of a particular clan, or... the possibilities are almost endless but the key point here is that the primary function was as a weight, not a magic charm or necklace.
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