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[Southern Points]

Thanks for the polite welcome everyone...Glad to be aboard...Posted on a lot of metal detecting sites and figured what the heck, this is still history and I have to admit myself and "Finder of Points" enjoy picking up a few Choctaw artifacts... Once again thanks for the kinds words and I'll try and keep'um coming...

[River Rat]

Very nice finds. I need my field plowed, but after last year's drought, I'm not taking any chances. I did find a end tip yesterday.

RR

[Southern Points]

Very nice finds. Where are you located? I'm near Hammond.

RR

Franklinton, Washington Parish

[Johnny X]

Those colors are sweeeeet.


Keep em coming.

xstevenx

[tomsneck]

Yeah man thats beautiful stuff.

thanks,

colin

[fossis]

Nice finds,

Now most of the Choctaws live in my neck of the woods, (Trail of Tears) Southeast OK, & we find Mostly Caddo points, & they moved (some), to Texas, , strange turn of events.


Fossis............

[Southern Points]

Nice finds,

Now most of the Choctaws live in my neck of the woods, (Trail of Tears) Southeast OK, & we find Mostly Caddo points, & they moved (some), to Texas, , strange turn of events.


Fossis............

Before the trail of tears this area was the home to the Choctaw as well as some other tribes like the Chahatta, which were a sub-tribe of the Choctaw who lived along the lakes and bayous of southeast Louisiana. I'd love to see if some of your finds from the Choctaw in OK and compare them to see if they are similar to the finds myself and "Finder of Points" have posted. Thanks for the info...."D"

[fossis]

Nice finds,

Now most of the Choctaws live in my neck of the woods, (Trail of Tears) Southeast OK, & we find Mostly Caddo points, & they moved (some), to Texas, , strange turn of events.


Fossis............

Before the trail of tears this area was the home to the Choctaw as well as some other tribes like the Chahatta, which were a sub-tribe of the Choctaw who lived along the lakes and bayous of southeast Louisiana. I'd love to see if some of your finds from the Choctaw in OK and compare them to see if they are similar to the finds myself and "Finder of Points" have posted. Thanks for the info...."D"

I don't know if the Choctaws still made flint points after their removal to Indian Territory or not, most of them by that time were
driving wagons & owned slaves, & were pretty well into the (white)
mans ways.
I have noticed the brown colored flints you posted, look a lot like stuff from just south of my location,(Mc curtain co) Ok, they may have had a trade route going between the Choctaws, & Caddoes of that area
in the days before white encroachment

HH, Fossis................

[Southern Points]

Nice finds,

Now most of the Choctaws live in my neck of the woods, (Trail of Tears) Southeast OK, & we find Mostly Caddo points, & they moved (some), to Texas, , strange turn of events.


Fossis............

Before the trail of tears this area was the home to the Choctaw as well as some other tribes like the Chahatta, which were a sub-tribe of the Choctaw who lived along the lakes and bayous of southeast Louisiana. I'd love to see if some of your finds from the Choctaw in OK and compare them to see if they are similar to the finds myself and "Finder of Points" have posted. Thanks for the info...."D"

I don't know if the Choctaws still made flint points after their removal to Indian Territory or not, most of them by that time were
driving wagons & owned slaves, & were pretty well into the (white)
mans ways.
I have noticed the brown colored flints you posted, look a lot like stuff from just south of my location,(Mc curtain co) Ok, they may have had a trade route going between the Choctaws, & Caddoes of that area
in the days before white encroachment

HH, Fossis................

Your right, by the time they were relocated the white encroachment was very prevalent, therefore the making of stone items was probably put to the waste side and replaced with the white man tools. Thanks for sharing the info......."D"

[fossis]

I traded for this point a few years ago,
supposed to be from LA, does it look like any you have seen in your area? I just kept the one because it was different from the Caddo points we find in Eastern OK, (sorry for the glare),

Fossis.................

[finderofpoints]

I traded for this point a few years ago,
supposed to be from LA, does it look like any you have seen in your area? I just kept the one because it was different from the Caddo points we find in Eastern OK, (sorry for the glare),

Fossis.................

That doesn't look like any we've ever seen in this area, but who knows, maybe we haven't dug deep enough !! Could very well be from north louisiana though.

[Southern Points]

I traded for this point a few years ago,
supposed to be from LA, does it look like any you have seen in your area? I just kept the one because it was different from the Caddo points we find in Eastern OK, (sorry for the glare),

Fossis.................

Sorry Fossis, that doesn't look familiar, however that doesn't mean it's not from a different tribe that was located in Louisiana. The color of the rock looks like about 80% of what I've collected and I do know for a fact that the Choctaw in our area traded for large rocks with other tribes in northern Louisiana and Mississippi. If I should run across anything like it I'll let you know....."D"

[jbl04410]

Hey nice artifacts.Am I wrong in thinking that this stuff is older than Choctaw artifacts would be?...............JAY

[Atlantis0077]

Afternoon,

FYI.....most points we find...not all, but the majority were made before the native Americans had tribal names, at least as the white man saw it. Tribal affiliations, though being traced to pre-historic or near prehistoric times, are relatively new on the scene. Take for instance in Louisiana were I am from....one of our major tribes was the Caddo. Though the ancestors of the Caddo were probably here for thousands of years, its only recently in history that they were known as "Caddo" or the various breakdowns of Caddo. Newer points such as Alba and Basset, Agee and others are generally known as "Caddo" points because they were made by a named tribal people or direct ancestors.

Thats a round about way to say this....the point you are showing there with the wings is an Evans point. Points that are getting to the age of an Evans arent known so much by tribal affiliation, but rather by time period...ie Archaic, Woodland, Paleo, etc. The Evans point is late archaic to woodland in nature....about 3-4 thousand years old. It would be hard to say that a Caddo or Choctaw made it, though the ancestors of same might have, as they were not known as such back then.....if that makes sense.

Points in general are broken into Cultural Periods.....as shown below:

Paleo......................14-11,000 bp
Late Paleo...............12-10,000 bp
Transitional Paleo.......11-9,000 bp
Early Archaic.............10-7,000 bp
Middle Archaic............7-4,000 bp
Late Archaic..............4-3,000 bp
Woodland...................3-1300 bp
Mississippian...........1300-400 bp
Historic.....................450-170 bp

These are approximations of dates and are from the Overstreets guide, but are generally accepted cultural periods for most of the country...extreme western areas have their own time periods that vary slighty.

Hope this helps

Atlantis

[Southern Points]

Afternoon,

FYI.....most points we find...not all, but the majority were made before the native Americans had tribal names, at least as the white man saw it. Tribal affiliations, though being traced to pre-historic or near prehistoric times, are relatively new on the scene. Take for instance in Louisiana were I am from....one of our major tribes was the Caddo. Though the ancestors of the Caddo were probably here for thousands of years, its only recently in history that they were known as "Caddo" or the various breakdowns of Caddo. Newer points such as Alba and Basset, Agee and others are generally known as "Caddo" points because they were made by a named tribal people or direct ancestors.

Thats a round about way to say this....the point you are showing there with the wings is an Evans point. Points that are getting to the age of an Evans arent known so much by tribal affiliation, but rather by time period...ie Archaic, Woodland, Paleo, etc. The Evans point is late archaic to woodland in nature....about 3-4 thousand years old. It would be hard to say that a Caddo or Choctaw made it, though the ancestors of same might have, as they were not known as such back then.....if that makes sense.

Points in general are broken into Cultural Periods.....as shown below:

Paleo......................14-11,000 bp
Late Paleo...............12-10,000 bp
Transitional Paleo.......11-9,000 bp
Early Archaic.............10-7,000 bp
Middle Archaic............7-4,000 bp
Late Archaic..............4-3,000 bp
Woodland...................3-1300 bp
Mississippian...........1300-400 bp
Historic.....................450-170 bp

These are approximations of dates and are from the Overstreets guide, but are generally accepted cultural periods for most of the country...extreme western areas have their own time periods that vary slighty.

Hope this helps

Atlantis

WOW, thanks for the great info... I would have to agree with you that even though the finds are probably not made by the "Choctaw" as we know them, they were probably made by their ancestors. Once again thanks Atlantis for the info..."D"