Big copper point or spear ?

[Johnny Bravo]

Found this the other day, looks like a conical point but its so big and heavy, could it be a spear ? Its 4.615'' long, .860'' at its widest, and the shaft socket is .600''. The tip is shaped like a chisel.

[Cannonman17]

That's a copper culture artifact alright.. wow, I have never seen a conical point that size.. listed in a price guide I would suspect a description of UNIQUE

[patina]

Yes, It looks good from the picture. The chiseled tip is rare on this type of point. Do you have better pictures of the point & different angles? Does the back side have a step up socket? Congrats...Patina

[Johnny Bravo]

Here are some more photos. I also have some large photos of it on my website at http://www.infiltraterz.com/cu

[patina]

Thanks for posting more pictures. I believe it is neither a point or spear. I believe it to be a light duty chisel tool. The tapered tip that forms the chisel was made for this purpose when originally hammered.
Doe's not have the traditional step up socket, usually found in points of ovate socket style.
Has chisel formed bevel tip & not a projectile point which is usually the norm.
Formed to be this tool from the start, not incorporating a step up suggests light duty.
Does not have the appearance of a re-salvage.
What you have is an unique copper culture tool that is complete.

Going back to step up's. What I mean is there is no step wall from the socket, up to the point or blade. It is on the same plane from bottom socket all the way to the tip. If used with force it would create extreme pressure on side wall sockets & hafting(bounce back). The transfer of energy on this type of plane goes from the tip directly to the hafting.
Where as a step up wall between the socket & point transfers all energy to the tip. Very little pressure on hafting which makes a step up, an implement of forward force that is the most affective against bounceback.
I can see your implement as a finishing wood working/ice, etc. tool using normal hand force.
Congrats, what you have is special & authentic old copper culture.....Patina

[drumking12]

do you metal detect for these or find them on the surface?

[Johnny Bravo]

I metal detect for them, though I have found a small knife (dug up by someone else) and 1 chunk of cu without a detector.

[pickaway]

Ouch sure wouldnt want to get hit in the ass with that .built to kill.Excellent find!!!