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  1. #1
    staggart

    Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Hi,

    I posted some pictures and the location where my son found this stone point last weekend at:

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,101939.0.html

    I was redirected here and was hoping I might get some help with getting more information about its possible age, material type and history of the people who may have created and lost it.

    Many thanks,

    Scott

  2. #2

    Aug 2005
    Collinsville, IL.
    802

    Re: Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Could be Basalt, or a heavily pat. obsidian. jmo!
    badandy
    Go find some artifacts! Wait............What's this red button do?

  3. #3

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Basalt, and I can't see any signs of use or resharpening, so there's a good chance that it's just a preform. Hunt a quarry area and you will see such preforms / blanks along with spalls and other debitage all over the place.

    I read some of that thread and somebody stated basalt doesn't knap well. They're incorrect, some basalt (and Dacite) knaps superbly. Yours just doesn't look like one of those pieces



  4. #4
    us
    Dec 2006
    East Coast
    122

    Re: Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Could be Basalt. Basalt comes in three (3) types. 1. Basalt, 2. Diabase, 3. Diabase Porphyry. Let me explain all three.
    I found a Dibase front Celt half and took it to a geologist at a local college because I had never encountered the stone type before. I took it to the college I am going to go to soon. The Geologists name is Prof. Judy Ninesteel.
    Basalt is mainly black volcanic stone with small to micro crystals. Diabase has visible SMALL discolored of off colored areas that are really crystals, although you couldn't tell the odd coloration were crystals. And Diabase Porphyry has larger crystals (off colored areas) but again you can't see the actual the crystal shapes just colored areas. The second two will appear as discoloration in the stone. For me it was a green color and of course like most of you all, I thought it was copper with tarnish. Now Diabase Porphyry probably comes with larger crystal areas in nature but I think the natives used the less crystalline parts.

    All basalt comes from the Triassic Period and was created about 251-199 MYA (I don't know what MYA means."

    As for the shape I haven't looked it up yet.
    Respects,
    ~Z~

  5. #5

    Jul 2007
    Missouri
    Fisher CZ6-CZ20-Whites surf PI
    707
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Quote Originally Posted by zeawolf
    Could be Basalt. Basalt comes in three (3) types. 1. Basalt, 2. Diabase, 3. Diabase Porphyry. Let me explain all three.
    I found a Dibase front Celt half and took it to a geologist at a local college because I had never encountered the stone type before. I took it to the college I am going to go to soon. The Geologists name is Prof. Judy Ninesteel.
    Basalt is mainly black volcanic stone with small to micro crystals. Diabase has visible SMALL discolored of off colored areas that are really crystals, although you couldn't tell the odd coloration were crystals. And Diabase Porphyry has larger crystals (off colored areas) but again you can't see the actual the crystal shapes just colored areas. The second two will appear as discoloration in the stone. For me it was a green color and of course like most of you all, I thought it was copper with tarnish. Now Diabase Porphyry probably comes with larger crystal areas in nature but I think the natives used the less crystalline parts.

    All basalt comes from the Triassic Period and was created about 251-199 MYA (I don't know what MYA means."

    As for the shape I haven't looked it up yet.
    Respects,
    ~Z~
    MYA-million years ago hence 251 to 199 million years ago

  6. #6

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: Please help me date and identify this stone point artifact

    Quote Originally Posted by staggart
    Hi,

    I posted some pictures and the location where my son found this stone point last weekend at:

    http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,101939.0.html

    I was redirected here and was hoping I might get some help with getting more information about its possible age, material type and history of the people who may have created and lost it.

    Many thanks,

    Scott
    I,ll go with basalt,always heard it made a pretty point but was hard to work. Jeff

 

 

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