Arrow head found need help.

[Rob66]

Found this arrow head a few years ago and just remembered I have it.It is beyond my scope of things.I hope there is someone that can tell me how old it is .Fake real...etc. I know there are a lot of arrow heads out there.I'm thinking this one is common.

Any input is appreciated.

Thanks RD

[badandy]

What part of the country was it found in?
badandy

[Rob66]

I was visiting some friends in mansfield Ohio. Metal detected a long a trail, dug up a penny and found it near by.


RD

[badandy]

From Ohio is looks most like a Hopewell point and is about 2500 to 1500 B.P. Could be made from Coshocton, or Upper Mercer flint. Hope this helps.
badandy

[Rob66]

More info I will ever find .Now I will research with what you gave me.

Thanks much !!!

RD

[Rockhunter in Ohio]

Looks to be Zaleski flint which was quarried in Vinton County, Ohio near the small hamlet of Zaleski. I would have to call it an Archaic Corner Notched Point. ( 5,000-7,000 BC) as the notches are not open and large enough like Hopewell points and it exhibits pressure flaking across the entire blade face ( also not seen on Hopewell points). Plus the fact that the Hopewell culture rarely used materials from Zaleski and the Coshocton deposits.

JMHO

[pickaway]

Nice find.Looks like rockhunter summed it up.I do however have a peice of coshocton that everyone I show it to thinks it flint ridge.I have never found a worked peice of zaleski flint.

[Neanderthal]

It doesn't appear Hopewell to me, could be Jacks Reed though. What color is the material, jet black or a lighter color? Any mottling?

[Rockhunter in Ohio]

It doesn't appear Hopewell to me, could be Jacks Reed though. What color is the material, jet black or a lighter color? Any mottling?

Could be an Intrusive Mound ( Jacks Reef) as Matt said. It looked to be quite thick in cross section for the type, but it's hard to tell from a picture. Most Intrusive Mound points are extremely thin in cross section and are rarely found whole. Of the 50 or so examples of Intrusive Mound points I have found, only one is whole.

[Neanderthal]

I've seen collectors try to differentiate "intrusive mound" and "Jack's Reef". It's often said that the Intrusive Mound is a damn thin Jack's Reef. I'm not quite sure, I do know that they can be incredibly thin. Jack's Reef is intrusive mound culture and, as with most types, individual knapping prowess should be taken into account. In other words, if me and you set out to make identical types..they wouldn't be. If you get 10 knappers together, some naturally will have an ability to thin the biface much more than others. I've about beaten this phrase to death..."It's not what they make, it's what they were intending to make".

I agree, when I first saw it, I thought it had a thicker than normal cross section also. I'm just not sure what else it could be.

[Johnny X]

I was kind of leaning toward Jack's Reef as well. But from what i'm reading I guess it depends on the thickness.

xstevenx

[ohioriver hunter]

Looks to be Zaleski flint which was quarried in Vinton County, Ohio near the small hamlet of Zaleski. I would have to call it an Archaic Corner Notched Point. ( 5,000-7,000 BC) as the notches are not open and large enough like Hopewell points and it exhibits pressure flaking across the entire blade face ( also not seen on Hopewell points). Plus the fact that the Hopewell culture rarely used materials from Zaleski and the Coshocton deposits.

JMHO

Agreed,not Hopewell,most likely Archaic Jeff

[Rob66]

Wow you people really know your stuff!!! "well... it is some kind of stone"flint?" black, yes.in some of the cracks(small) there is a streak of yellowish brown color.. maybe, or just some kind of dirt.I will take better picture tomorrow.

Thanks for the help.
RD

[Rob66]

From Ohio is looks most like a Hopewell point and is about 2500 to 1500 B.P. Could be made from Coshocton, or Upper Mercer flint. Hope this helps.
badandy

What's B.P?

Also found this am Igetting closer? http://www.southeastartifacts.com/early_archaic.htm

[Rob66]

Just found out my friends father... has a box full I quess he finds them all the time.

[Neanderthal]

From Ohio is looks most like a Hopewell point and is about 2500 to 1500 B.P. Could be made from Coshocton, or Upper Mercer flint. Hope this helps.
badandy

What's B.P?

Also found this am Igetting closer? http://www.southeastartifacts.com/early_archaic.htm

B.P. = Before Present.

That page is of southeastern artifacts and not really applicable to Ohio.

[ohioriver hunter]

From Ohio is looks most like a Hopewell point and is about 2500 to 1500 B.P. Could be made from Coshocton, or Upper Mercer flint. Hope this helps.
badandy

What's B.P?

Also found this am Igetting closer? http://www.southeastartifacts.com/early_archaic.htm

Before puberty?

[Rob66]

From Ohio is looks most like a Hopewell point and is about 2500 to 1500 B.P. Could be made from Coshocton, or Upper Mercer flint. Hope this helps.
badandy

What's B.P?

Also found this am Igetting closer? http://www.southeastartifacts.com/early_archaic.htm

Before puberty?

O.K.......?