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  1. #1

    Aug 2007
    3

    Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Hello Everyone,
    I am in South Carolina and know almost nothing about Indian artifacts. But I found both of these within a month in almost the exact same spot. This larger one (which I think might be a spearhead) was found today, after a really hard rain last night. Believe it or not, I actually found these under a tree just outside my daughter's horse trainer's dressage arena! The soil there is very sandy, with lots of sandstone present. And there is the remnants of a creek running close by to where this arena is located. If these are in fact Indian artifacts, perhaps this property was at one time an Indian settlement or campground? Would anyone offer an opinion on whether or not these are the real thing, and if so, perhaps how old they might be? Thanks for your help.
    Jim
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  2. #2

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Yup Game, those appear to be the real deal - native american artifacts.



  3. #3

    Aug 2007
    3

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Hey Matt,
    Thanks for the info. Can you tell me what type of things you look for to recognize them? I thought the head of these two seemed to indicate they were real, but sometimes it is hard to tell if you just have a rock that looks like something else. Also, what type of mineral do you think these may be? Thanks again.

  4. #4

    Aug 2005
    Collinsville, IL.
    802

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    I look for flaking, symmetry, color, and a worked edge.
    badandy
    Go find some artifacts! Wait............What's this red button do?

  5. #5

    Aug 2007
    3

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Can you tell anything about these 2 items? What is your opinion on their authenticity? Thanks



  6. #6

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gamecock Fan
    Hello Everyone,
    I am in South Carolina and know almost nothing about Indian artifacts. But I found both of these within a month in almost the exact same spot. This larger one (which I think might be a spearhead) was found today, after a really hard rain last night. Believe it or not, I actually found these under a tree just outside my daughter's horse trainer's dressage arena! The soil there is very sandy, with lots of sandstone present. And there is the remnants of a creek running close by to where this arena is located. If these are in fact Indian artifacts, perhaps this property was at one time an Indian settlement or campground? Would anyone offer an opinion on whether or not these are the real thing, and if so, perhaps how old they might be? Thanks for your help.
    Jim
    Real foolers.I pick them up all the time,juyst to throw them back down.Maybe it is just the pics but they don,t seem to be worked at all. Just interesting rocks JMO Jeff

  7. #7

    May 2007
    TX
    1,402
    6 times

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    i'd look around the area alot more those are artifacts great finds

  8. #8

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Not sure about the one on the left, maybe Guilford stemmed? The one on the right reminds me of a Koens Crispin. I disagree with Ohioriver hunter, they look like legit artifacts. I can ascertain flaking and form. Rhyolite points can be pretty rough sometimes, but they work what they could get their hands on.



  9. #9

    Sep 2006
    97

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Hey Jim, nice points! Check that same area out after a good rain (if we ever get any) and you'll find several more! Happy Hunting!!
    "Liberty or Death"

  10. #10

    Apr 2007
    122

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    The smaller of the two looks like a Gary. I"ve seen a few that were not in much better shape. Not sure on the larger. Both are pretty worn. Were did you find them? Razor

  11. #11

    Apr 2007
    122

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Oops. Guess I should have read the whole thing Razor

  12. #12

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt R
    Not sure about the one on the left, maybe Guilford stemmed? The one on the right reminds me of a Koens Crispin. I disagree with Ohioriver hunter, they look like legit artifacts. I can ascertain flaking and form. Rhyolite points can be pretty rough sometimes, but they work what they could get their hands on.
    I guess my eyes are shot. I ,except for one pc. can,t see any flaking at all. The material looks like shale,limestone or something,but all I do is pick them up ,been huntin off and on for 33 yrs.but just started getting interested in typology,materials and like.I know little about Ohio artifacts let alone SC. finds. I,d take Matt,s advice,he seems to be very knowledgable.

    Jeff
    AKA Ohioriverhunter

  13. #13

    Sep 2006
    97

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Hey Jeff the environment and material these points are a product of have resulted in their less than refined look. If my suspicions are correct Gamecockfan (how bout that game yesterday!!) found these sandstone points in an area that is usually underwater and sandy, but is exposed and searchable due to the drought in SC. These result after about 65 years or so (depending on the age of the reservoir) is a tumbled look to these points. The chert points don't show this tumbling due to the increased hardness compared to sandstone.
    "Liberty or Death"

  14. #14

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Quote Originally Posted by FMarion2ndRegSC
    Hey Jeff the environment and material these points are a product of have resulted in their less than refined look. If my suspicions are correct Gamecockfan (how bout that game yesterday!!) found these sandstone points in an area that is usually underwater and sandy, but is exposed and searchable due to the drought in SC. These result after about 65 years or so (depending on the age of the reservoir) is a tumbled look to these points. The chert points don't show this tumbling due to the increased hardness compared to sandstone.
    Thanks Marion,I didn,t know that. I,ve never even heard of Ryholite.But the more I look at them,I can see they are the real thing. The main reason I,m on this forum is to learn.
    Jeff

  15. #15
    us
    Aug 2005
    Beautiful Florida
    259

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Is Rhyolite common in S.C.? I thought Rhyolite is a type of quartz or granite, not sandstone. Also the forms of the points look correct but I've never seen a sandstone point ever. Are they common in S.C.? I was leaning towards them being natural formed rocks but I know nothing about points from that area of the U.S. Thanks

  16. #16

    Sep 2006
    97

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Here are a few what I call sandstone points. Sometimes they are in better shape than others, but they are definitely not as pretty as the chert points, but seem to be fairly common at least in my part of SC. And let me tell you, they are much harder to spot among all the gravel and rocks laying around. The chert points really shine and are much easier to spot.
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    "Liberty or Death"

  17. #17

    Jul 2006
    Wisconsin
    1,551

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    I'm thinking that they are actually a type of quartzite. Low quality stuff often looks like sandstone but it's a tad more compressed and holds together better. Real sandstone just doesn't have any concoidal fracturing properties at all and is all but useless as a lithic material.
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

  18. #18
    us
    Aug 2005
    Beautiful Florida
    259

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    I don't know but I think they are Leverites, as in leave them right there. I don't see any real flaking, material is wrong, hope I'm wrong!

  19. #19

    Jul 2006
    Wisconsin
    1,551

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    They most certainly are artifacts..... just poor material.
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

  20. #20
    us
    Aug 2007
    Independence, Oregon
    Scorpion Gold Stinger and Tesoro Silver
    541

    Re: Indian arrowhead and spearhead or not?

    Yes those are real projectile points--and they are very old--and been buried in sandy, very acidic soil too.

    Good find

    Sherm
    "What's right is right.  What's wrong is wrong. No matter who you are."
                                      Sheriff Bufford Pusser

 

 

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