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  1. #1

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Definitely not an Adena!

    I found this point earlier this morning. I was as excited as I could be! Please give me opinions on point classification. I have an idea, but would like input from others. It has an ancient ding on the front that was reworked, saving the point. The pic doesn't really show the salvage job they did on the tip. They were able to rework the damaged part and reuse the point. There is a lot of flaking around the tip where they worked on it.

    Thanks for your input!

    Good luck!
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  2. #2
    pickaway

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    hmm ill guess eithier fluted or unfluted point.

  3. #3

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    I guess I need to clarify my question a little. This point was found in a field that has produced artifacts from the Paleo period. The basal end of the point makes me think that I might have a clovis variant or some type of dalton. It is not fluted that I can tell. I would love to have found the point whole. It would have helped with the ID a little. Any help would be appreciated.

  4. #4

    Jul 2006
    Wisconsin
    1,551

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Dalton variant with impact fracture. IMO
    "A culture truly grows great when old men plant trees in who's shade they know they will never sit"

  5. #5
    pickaway

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    yeah after looking up dalton points id say it is, i never new they resembled the clovis.thanks for the heads up on the dalton where are they generally located?

  6. #6

    Aug 2005
    Collinsville, IL.
    802

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    They have as wide of a distribution as the Clovis people, if not bigger.
    badandy
    Go find some artifacts! Wait............What's this red button do?

  7. #7

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Where are you from? It doesn't look Clovis nor Dalton to me but could be a Dalton variant.


    Andy, no way Dalton has even near as large of distribution range as Clovis. Clovis are found throughout our continent. Dalton are more of an Eastern tradition and don't really have a presence out west (plains states) at all.



  8. #8

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt R
    Where are you from? It doesn't look Clovis nor Dalton to me but could be a Dalton variant.


    Andy, no way Dalton has even near as large of distribution range as Clovis. Clovis are found throughout our continent. Dalton are more of an Eastern tradition and don't really have a presence out west (plains states) at all.
    This piece was found just outside of Nicholasville KY (Central KY) 14 miles south of Lexington. I was very surprised to find it. I have been walking this field for 30 years and have never picked up a Dalton or Clovis. As soon as I saw it, I muttered "What the h***?" I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me.

    Thanks for the posts everyone!

  9. #9

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by Adena_man
    I found this point earlier this morning. I was as excited as I could be! Please give me opinions on point classification. I have an idea, but would like input from others. It has an ancient ding on the front that was reworked, saving the point. The pic doesn't really show the salvage job they did on the tip. They were able to rework the damaged part and reuse the point. There is a lot of flaking around the tip where they worked on it.

    Thanks for your input!

    Good luck! When I first saw it I said to myself Clovis, but a dalton would be my final answer or guess. Jeff

  10. #10

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
    975
    3 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Adena, is there any basal grinding apparent? The first thing that popped into my head when I saw it was a Copena variant..dunno.



  11. #11

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by ohioriver hunter
    Quote Originally Posted by Adena_man
    I found this point earlier this morning. I was as excited as I could be! Please give me opinions on point classification. I have an idea, but would like input from others. It has an ancient ding on the front that was reworked, saving the point. The pic doesn't really show the salvage job they did on the tip. They were able to rework the damaged part and reuse the point. There is a lot of flaking around the tip where they worked on it.

    Thanks for your input!

    Good luck! When I first saw it I said to myself Clovis, but a dalton would be my final answer or guess. Jeff
    Thanks for the post Jeff! I first thought I had a Clovis when I first saw it sticking up out of the ground. The basal end was sticking up straight as if it had been shot into the ground. Would have made a great insitu, but my wife had my camera at a reunion. It really got the heart started to pounding! At least i'm getting closer to the ever elusive Clovis. Definitely nothing wrong with a Dalton though! It is my first one.

    Good luck!

  12. #12

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by Matt R
    Adena, is there any basal grinding apparent? The first thing that popped into my head when I saw it was a Copena variant..dunno.
    Hey Matt, there seems to be some grinding on the basal end. An archy friend held it in hand and said definitely not Clovis. She said that it was definitely a Dalton.

    Good luck!

  13. #13

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by Cannonman17
    Dalton variant with impact fracture. IMO
    Thanks for the help Cannonman!

  14. #14

    Feb 2007
    Nicholasville, Ky
    883
    1 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    Quote Originally Posted by pickaway
    yeah after looking up dalton points id say it is, i never new they resembled the clovis.thanks for the heads up on the dalton where are they generally located?
    Thanks for the website info and the help Pickaway!

  15. #15
    White's Spectrum XLT

    Aug 2005
    Jerseyville Illinois
    White's Spec. XLT..... My Eyes
    963
    2 times

    Re: Definitely not an Adena!

    I was thinking Dalton variant.

    JMO.

    xstevenx
    Master of my fate...

    Captain of my soul..

 

 

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