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  1. #1

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    A little help on two of the three

    I found each of these three while searching in NE Ohio. The long one was found in a bone-dry cornfield while following a tractor far enough back to avoid the dust. It was point down in the ground with only about an 1/8th sticking up. Pure luck. Never had it ID'd but figured it to be common enough.
    The other has a finely worked edge most of the way around. It is very sharp and well formed - fairly thin as well. But....it has that little leg on it. One guy told me it might be a hafted scraper. Sounded good to me.
    The oddball there was found in the same field (it's loaded with flakes and points.). I am not sure what it is. One thing it isn't is complete. Half is missing and judging by the edges it is long gone. The OD is sort of a rounded off square shape while the ID looks like it was fairly circular.
    An ideas on these. I would greatly appreciate the help.
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  2. #2

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Nothing? I was kinda hoping some of the more experienced and knowledgable members could shed a little light on the two right-most objects. I'm clueless on them.

  3. #3

    Jul 2007
    227

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Is that one on the left kind of squarish? I have 2 like that but I have no idea what they are.

  4. #4

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Quote Originally Posted by Cruisin
    Is that one on the left kind of squarish? I have 2 like that but I have no idea what they are.
    Apparently no one else knows what it is either.

    It is squarish on the outside. The ID is round and looks like it was bored through.

    I am more interested in the piece with the leg jutting out the side. It is a very finely worked piece that obviously took time and care to create.

  5. #5

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Maybe this will help. Here is another few view of the two I am most curious about.
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    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Top picture on left looks like a shaft straightner.


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  7. #7

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Thank you. Does that mean it probably isn't broken or was it once possible a complete circle?

  8. #8

    Jul 2007
    227

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Could the one with the "leg" be a knife blade? One of the legs would act like a tang in today's knives.


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    Re: A little help on two of the three

    It is hard to tell from pictures but the middle one in top picture could be a partical made point, one that is still attached to the core.


    Many of the shaft straightners I have seen are like that,, they are not completely round.


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  10. #10

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter
    It is hard to tell from pictures but the middle one in top picture could be a partical made point, one that is still attached to the core.


    Many of the shaft straightners I have seen are like that,, they are not completely round.
    I don't know about the partial idea. It is finely worked on all edges including those of the leg jutting out. If you held it it looks like a point with a on odd stub sticking out of the side. I think the stub was longer at one time and broke off. It's worked all the way to the edge and then abrubtly ends at a break. the intersections of the leg and the stub are worked to keep the same profile of the body.
    Anyway, it's unlike any I have ever seen and was curious if anyone was familiar with it's purpose.

  11. #11

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
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    Re: A little help on two of the three

    I've looked at these pictures several times now, and I simply cannot ascertain for positive that the circular piece is an artifact. I keep looking for any signs of modification that would ensure that, but can't see it from the photos. There are alot of geofacts that will fool a person and everyone has picked up alot of "foolers". Maybe it shows something different in hand, dunno. I don't see any flake removal, signs of use or anything that looks like intentional modification. I thought intially it could be the broken end of a pendant / gorget..but I don't see any tell-tale signs of drilling. Pics often don't tell the full story, that could be the case here...what's the material?



  12. #12

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    I'm not sure of the material. It definitley looks worked when it is in your hands. It is hard to photograph well enough to get all of the features. It looks like at one time it was a squarish shape with a hole bored through it. It appears to have broken from torquing forces since it has opposite angles on the broken edges - like it was twisted or somthing. The outside edges of the square look deliberatley abraded to create the squarish shape. The sides are not perfectly vertical but have a slight beveling away from the midpoint. Also the top and bottom or parallel and appear polished. And the hole in the center appears to have been made from both sides but more work done from one side than the other.
    I never thought it to be natural because it looked so manufactured. I could be wrong though. Would not be the first time.

  13. #13

    Aug 2006
    oklahoma
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    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Look closely inside the concavity and see if there are circular abrasions running around in parallel, as made from "drilling"...just curious. The material doesn't appear "chertish", it appears more like a hardstone? Does it look sedimentary?



  14. #14

    Oct 2007
    NE Ohio....Mahoning County
    34

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    The material is not one I was readily familiar with. To tell the truth...when I looked at it I was so taken by the shape and possible use that I never really paid attention to the material. I will check it tonight when I am home to try to identify it and look for the circular drill marks.
    Thanks.

  15. #15

    Apr 2007
    481

    Re: A little help on two of the three

    Quote Originally Posted by arm66
    I found each of these three while searching in NE Ohio. The long one was found in a bone-dry cornfield while following a tractor far enough back to avoid the dust. It was point down in the ground with only about an 1/8th sticking up. Pure luck. Never had it ID'd but figured it to be common enough.
    The other has a finely worked edge most of the way around. It is very sharp and well formed - fairly thin as well. But....it has that little leg on it. One guy told me it might be a hafted scraper. Sounded good to me.
    The oddball there was found in the same field (it's loaded with flakes and points.). I am not sure what it is. One thing it isn't is complete. Half is missing and judging by the edges it is long gone. The OD is sort of a rounded off square shape while the ID looks like it was fairly circular.
    An ideas on these. I would greatly appreciate the help.
    O NE TOO MANY HITS OFF THE PEACE PIPE BEFORE THEY MADE THAT ONE.Only kiddin.I really don,t have a clue.
    Jeff

 

 

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