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  1. #1
    pippinwhitepaws

    metal detecting laws arizona

    http://www.metal-detecting-ghost-tow...n-Arizona.html


    "No person, institution, organization, or corporation shall undertake any activity proscribed in A.R.S. '41-841 until a permit is first secured from the Director of the Arizona State Museum"

    i have some serious concerns about use of a metal detector in arizona.
    we have less private owned land than most states...last check was around 14%, though the forest service and blm have opened up some areas for development near towns...

    i have been threatened with arrest in prescott, harassed on the border, and leave my detector in the truck unless invited to hunt private property.

    while the "hobby" may be booming in the east, in the west, using a detector without a permit is an arrest/seizure event.
    you may even get away with it for a while... but arizona law will seize your detector, your vehicle, and introduce you to the nearest judge.

    B. RULES IMPLEMENTING A.R.S. ' 15-1631 AND 41-841, ET SEQ. THE ARIZONA ANTIQUITIES ACT 8-201 General A. Definitions The following definitions shall apply in this Chapter unless the context requires otherwise: 1. "Affinity" means the condition of relationship established through membership in a common cultural group. 2. "Applicant" means an institution, organization or corporation organized for scientific, research, or land-use planning purposes that seeks to obtain a permit. 3. "Archaeological site" means any area with material remains of past Indian or non-Indian life or activities that are of archaeological interest, including without limitation, historic or prehistoric ruins, burial grounds, and inscriptions made by human agency. 4. "Archaeological specimen" is defined in A.R.S. '41-841. 5. "Collect" means to remove an object from its location without disturbing the ground at or around that location. 6. "Collection survey" means a survey that may, but need not, involve the actual collection of archaeological or paleontological specimens. 7. "Director" means the Director of the Arizona State Museum or an official designee of the Director. 8. "Excavate" means to effect any disturbance of the ground, including movement of earn or stone. Policy Number: 8-201 y Name: Rules Implementing A.R.S. '15-1631 and '41- 841, et seq., The Arizona Antiquities Act -

  2. #2

    Jul 2007
    22

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by pippinwhitepaws
    http://www.metal-detecting-ghost-tow...n-Arizona.html


    "No person, institution, organization, or corporation shall undertake any activity proscribed in A.R.S. '41-841 until a permit is first secured from the Director of the Arizona State Museum"

    i have some serious concerns about use of a metal detector in arizona.
    we have less private owned land than most states...last check was around 14%, though the forest service and blm have opened up some areas for development near towns...

    i have been threatened with arrest in prescott, harassed on the border, and leave my detector in the truck unless invited to hunt private property.

    while the "hobby" may be booming in the east, in the west, using a detector without a permit is an arrest/seizure event.
    you may even get away with it for a while... but arizona law will seize your detector, your vehicle, and introduce you to the nearest judge.

    B. RULES IMPLEMENTING A.R.S. ' 15-1631 AND 41-841, ET SEQ. THE ARIZONA ANTIQUITIES ACT 8-201 General A. Definitions The following definitions shall apply in this Chapter unless the context requires otherwise: 1. "Affinity" means the condition of relationship established through membership in a common cultural group. 2. "Applicant" means an institution, organization or corporation organized for scientific, research, or land-use planning purposes that seeks to obtain a permit. 3. "Archaeological site" means any area with material remains of past Indian or non-Indian life or activities that are of archaeological interest, including without limitation, historic or prehistoric ruins, burial grounds, and inscriptions made by human agency. 4. "Archaeological specimen" is defined in A.R.S. '41-841. 5. "Collect" means to remove an object from its location without disturbing the ground at or around that location. 6. "Collection survey" means a survey that may, but need not, involve the actual collection of archaeological or paleontological specimens. 7. "Director" means the Director of the Arizona State Museum or an official designee of the Director. 8. "Excavate" means to effect any disturbance of the ground, including movement of earn or stone. Policy Number: 8-201 y Name: Rules Implementing A.R.S. '15-1631 and '41- 841, et seq., The Arizona Antiquities Act -
    Hi Pipinwhitepaws
    Thanks, the public needs to know what the implications are for braking this law! We're losing parts of our history every time someone takes these historical antiquities there losing the artifact's context and then they throw them in there yards and forget where it came from or when they die no one has a clue to where it came from. I've seen a lot of theft over the years and every time I discover it I want to wake up every one to the fact that these thefts where ours and the losses to our heritage that can not be replaced, and in some cases the artifact and it's history is never known. Again Thanks.
    Eugene


  3. #3
    pippinwhitepaws

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    howdy gene...

    no need to thank me...i learned this as a boy scout in arizona...the laws came later...
    i have melt downs when i see people destroy our history...and while i am not affiliated with any organization, ethics and respect are what separate us from animals.
    walnut canyon, pillaged.
    canyon de chelly, pillaged.
    chaco canyon, pillaged.
    mesa verde, pillaged.
    Montezuma castle, pillaged
    Charleston, pillaged. ..this community was a place wyatt earp was afraid to enter...11 miles from tombstone...pits dug looking for treasure, walls holed and knocked down...massive destruction.
    the list is as long as the few historic communities arizona had during pioneer days.

    then this morning, first thing i see, someone is braggin about how many 'ghost towns' arizona has to offer those selfish enough to break clearly defined laws
    people immigrating to arizona be ware.

    i take notes and photographs...as i hope others would do.

  4. #4

    Jul 2007
    22

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by pippinwhitepaws
    howdy gene...

    no need to thank me...i learned this as a boy scout in arizona...the laws came later...
    i have melt downs when i see people destroy our history...and while i am not affiliated with any organization, ethics and respect are what separate us from animals.
    walnut canyon, pillaged.
    canyon de chelly, pillaged.
    chaco canyon, pillaged.
    mesa verde, pillaged.
    Montezuma castle, pillaged
    Charleston, pillaged. ..this community was a place wyatt earp was afraid to enter...11 miles from tombstone...pits dug looking for treasure, walls holed and knocked down...massive destruction.
    the list is as long as the few historic communities arizona had during pioneer days.

    then this morning, first thing i see, someone is braggin about how many 'ghost towns' arizona has to offer those selfish enough to break clearly defined laws
    people immigrating to arizona be ware.

    i take notes and photographs...as i hope others would do.
    Pippinwhitepaws
    Ya got Heart. I wish there where more people with a little more Heart around hear.
    Eugene
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  5. #5
    pippinwhitepaws

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    nice photo gene.
    i have the same wish... 8)

  6. #6

    Jan 2007
    Heavener oklahoma
    fisher gold bug2
    247

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    It burns My A-s every time They pass a law to do Good then some square HEADED cop pulls it out when you are only dectecting on some mountain for gold..

    When ever I see that cr-p to PROTECT an serve on a cop car makes me want to have a BOWEL movement.
    There is no PROTECT ABOUT ANY OF THEM, in the last week within 15 miles of my home there have been FOUR MURDERS!! WHERE WAS THEIR PROTECTION?? I live in rural oklahoma just small towns.
    To bad those four people were not PARANOID like i am and were carring a gun they might be alive today. The SUPREME COURT RULED THAT THE POLICE WERE NOT HERE TO PROTECT YOU...

    Blackfoot

    if you like what you are getting, keep doing what you are doing!!
    Life Member Viet Nam Veterans of America.
    N.R.A. Member
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  7. #7

    Jan 2007
    Heavener oklahoma
    fisher gold bug2
    247

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    I have never got upset , when i explain how the cow is going to eat the cabbage the cops always seem to see my point or how heavily armed i am and just decide it is not worth it.
    My Dad put eight bullets in a man IN kalifornia back in the forties was not even taken to jail, did not kill him was hitting him in arms and legs was hiding behind a tree.

    M y son is deputy sherriff but he can only provide me protection when he visits on the week ends the rest of the time i have to protect myself.
    Four murders in the last week within 15 miles of my rural okla home .protection at its best the only came after the deeds were did.
    if you like what you are getting, keep doing what you are doing!!
    Life Member Viet Nam Veterans of America.
    N.R.A. Member
    GPAA Member

  8. #8
    us
    Mar 2009
    AZ
    49

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    I agree Blackfoot,big brother is always looking over your shoulder but when the need is great were are they.
    Two times I my life I needed help.It took them 25 min to get there,latter I asked what took so long?They said
    we were waiting for back up.Five cop cars give me a brake.I had no back up,I do now!I carry it every were I go.
    And as far as passing laws to protect are history,the government tries but they have to much red tap.A regular Joe just does not have a chance.I wish are govermment would offer a finders fee if you found something.
    It would solve a lot of hart ache.If you do find something they take it away,so people just get rid of it were ever.Its sad,I would like to see some of there finds.O-Well what can one do,just in joy your research and
    exploration.

  9. #9
    Desert Rat

    Mar 2006
    Fruita Colorado
    144
    1 times

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    The problem i have....if your thought patterns do not follow the accepted time line chosen as gospel....your a wack job....but if we were to listen and look at the faded clues....think of what
    unwritten history we might uncover by keeping an open mind...
    So until you catch me....i'll continue to wander the hills and do what i do...in my quest for the
    truth.

    DW
    Chasing The Past One Marker At A Time...

  10. #10
    pippinwhitepaws

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    ok, i'm a wack job leon...and this topic went off the wall like most.

    sorry, i was posting laws i have learned to live within as i search the southwest for history.
    i'm done.

  11. #11
    Desert Rat

    Mar 2006
    Fruita Colorado
    144
    1 times

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    Didn't say anything about you personally pippen...i thought that was pretty clear...just stated my 2 cents on the overall issue...after all....histories greatest discoveries are made by the uneducated average joe....and without tangible proof....the powers that be will laugh at you...



    Chasing The Past One Marker At A Time...

  12. #12
    us
    Ace250man

    Jul 2004
    Shelbyville or any yard where the owner will let me detect!
    ace 250
    20,001
    80 times
    Metal Detecting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    your state laws stink !!!!
    ALLEN

  13. #13

    Jan 2007
    Heavener oklahoma
    fisher gold bug2
    247

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    only applies to artifact sites. the rangers have never said anything to me where i pan for gold and i am not going to tell them where there is a indian grinding stone cause then that area would be off limits, right??
    check out arizona gold prospectors site about using detectors to find gold in az for years
    if you like what you are getting, keep doing what you are doing!!
    Life Member Viet Nam Veterans of America.
    N.R.A. Member
    GPAA Member

  14. #14

    Jan 2007
    Heavener oklahoma
    fisher gold bug2
    247

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    arizona gold prospectors have all kind of links check it out .
    they have the same fedral antiques law here fifty years old no diggy, so a coin i lost when i was 12 i am not supposed to recover out of my lawn stupid law, i do disregard it.
    if you like what you are getting, keep doing what you are doing!!
    Life Member Viet Nam Veterans of America.
    N.R.A. Member
    GPAA Member

  15. #15
    us
    Feb 2006
    New Hampshire - USA
    Fisher CZ21, Teknetics T2 & Minelab Sovereign GT
    2,316
    482 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: metal detecting laws arizona

    Quote Originally Posted by BLACKFOOT
    arizona gold prospectors have all kind of links check it out .
    they have the same fedral antiques law here fifty years old no diggy, so a coin i lost when i was 12 i am not supposed to recover out of my lawn stupid law, i do disregard it.
    Guess that just means you're a Federal antiquity Blackfoot
    "There is no getting away from a treasure that once fastens upon your mind" - Joseph Conrad (Nostromo)

 

 
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