Report: One-third of vets waiting medical care already dead (The Hill 7/13.2015)

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An internal Veterans Affairs Department report states that about one-third of the veterans waiting to receive medical care from the agency have already died.

A review of veteran death records provided to the Huffington Post found that, as of April, 847,822 veterans were awaiting healthcare and that of those, 238,647 were already deceased.

The report was handed over by Scott Davis, a program specialist at the VA's Health Eligibility Center in Atlanta

He also sent copies to the House and Senate VA panels and to the White House.

A VA spokeswoman told Huffington Post that the department can’t subtract dead applicants from the list and that some may never have completed an application but remain on the back log.

Spokeswoman Walinda West also said that more than 80 percent veterans who come to the department "have either Medicare, Medicaid, Tricare or some other private insurance.”

“Consequently, some in pending status may have decided to use other options instead of completing their eligibility application."

Davis dismissed that argument.

"VA wants you to believe, by virtue of people being able to get health care elsewhere, it's not a big deal. But VA is turning away tens of thousands of veterans eligible for health care," he said. "VA is making it cumbersome, and then saying, 'See? They didn't want it anyway.'"

The leak is sure to provoke a strong reaction among Capitol Hill lawmakers still fuming over last year’s scandal over patient wait times.

A series of internal and third-party investigations found the VA medical network was rife with falsified data that may have contributed to patient deaths.

The controversy roiled the Obama administration for months and forced VA Secretary Eric Shinseki to resign.

The news comes the same day that VA’s No. 2 warned Congress that it needs to fill a $3 billion shortfall or risk shutting down VA hospitals in August.

“It is essential that Congress pass legislation to provide the requested budget flexibility by the end of July 2015,” Deputy Secretary Sloan Gibson wrote in a letter to lawmakers.

“This is necessary to replenish critical operations funding that VA had to reallocate from other medical services programs to sustain Care in the Community, after those funds were depleted ... if these program funds are not restored, VA will face shutting down hospital operations during August 2015,” he said.
 

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March of last year I had a hemi-colonectomy at the VA. All was well until about a month ago, started having trouble, and severe intestinal pain. Called the VA yesterday concerned about this. They set me an appointment two months from now, even after I described what I was going through.

I had hoped they'd be more concerned.

JUST LIKE I AM!
 

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My friend of mine, his father-in-law, 90 years old, and a WW II Navy officer in the Pacific, recently had abdominal pains. He went through the VA 'drill' of the application and wait process till he could take the wait no longer. He sought and received treatment elsewhere (turned out to be bladder cancer). Still no word from the VA.
Don....
 

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Deep,

How's your situation with the VA coming along? Any change since your last post?

From many posts in here about VA care over the last few years or so, it does appear that what Bullet said is true and it does depend on what area you are in. Personally, I have had good and bad care in the North Texas VA system, although mostly it has been good care. Just in the last month, I had my semi annual check up and the primary care doc wanted another chest cat scan just to check it out. I was scheduled in at the Dallas VA hospital but I called and changed it to the FT. Worth VA Medical facility since that is always where I go for my X Rays, cat scans and MRI's and it is MUCH closer to me that the actual Dallas Hospital. I had no trouble switching it to Ft Worth and when they called me from Ft Worth to schedule the cat scan, they said they needed to get it done within 30 days of the original request date so that gave them only two weeks to get it done. I had it done last week, and that was within that 30 day period. Now, I'm awaiting the results. As I said, most of the treatment I've gotten has been very good, but there was one time a year and a half ago that a radiologist misread my cat scan and as a result I had to go to a civilian doctor to get treated. As it turned out, the VA admitted their mistake and misread cat scan, but refused to pay for their screw up and I had to pay for the civilian doctor and hospital. That didn't make sense to me at all.
 

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Deep, How's your situation with the VA coming along? Any change since your last post?

You prompted me to log into myhealthcare and check appointments. Nothing's changed, still September 15th. I've changed my diet quite a bit to cut down on the issues and it has helped. Lot's & lot's of water, no beer or pop. No pain and no "explosive" situations soiling myself. My GF hugged too hard one time and I had to sneak outta there :(

I've given the Salem VA facility great reviews, love my doctors and the staff. But I'm sensing some change there. Perhaps the national VA malaise is creeping in. But to their credit it's getting more and more crowded there.

When I first signed up for the benefits I was assigned to Detroit’s John Dingell VA Medical Center. There was nothing wrong with me at the time. But I figured I needed to know my way around there, so I drove down there. Good gracious, I wasn't going in there! I felt like I'd either not make it in alive, or wouldn't make it out alive.

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When I moved back down here I went to the Durham VA for a year and had absolutely great care there, but it was a 2 1/4 hour drive one way. I'd heard so darned much negative about the Salem VA, I dreaded going there. But along came circumstances, and I transferred there to Salem. I haven't regretted that.

However, I'm getting the sense that all VA medical centers are beginning to suffer degraded care, nationwide. I don't see anything correcting or stopping that descent.
 

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Deep,

Thanks for the update and for myself, I can only speak to the North Texas Veterans Healthcare system. I have never been treated in any other regional Veteran Healthcare facility. As I said, my care has been up and down, quality wise, with most of the health care being on the "up" side quality wise. I sincerely hope you're wrong about health care on a national basis being on the down slide, but it wouldn't surprise me. Now that the big shake up of about a year ago in Veteran's Healthcare is over, if we as vets let it be forgotten, it will!! It's up to us to keep it in the forefront of Congress, by whatever means needed.

Please let us know how you make out on September 15th too buddy.
 

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I retired from the Army National Guard 2 years ago. Back when I was 27 I had symptoms of a stroke and without medical coverage I went to the VA. I sat in the waiting room for 2 hours and they sent me away after a few routine tests telling me I was too young to have a stroke. I week later they called and told me my test results showed a lesion in my brain consistent with a stroke and then it took me 2 more months to get seen. This was back in the late 90s. Thankfully, I never had a problem or occurrence nor did the VA or my private doctors could ever determine what caused it, but it has always made me wonder about the chances that this has happened to others and they died in between waiting or had debilitating health issues as a result.
 

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