What do you want in a water beach scoop.

[Sandman]

What do you want to see in a water beach scoop. This is different than the dry sand sifters which work well with a wire mesh. Water scoops tend to be larger due to you need to get it out quickly or the waves will cover the hole again so it takes more scoops.

Thanks to all that post.

 

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[erikk]

As many gold rings as possible!

 

[Glenn-RI]

I mainly search at salt water beaches in the wet sand just above the water line to about knee deep. Many times I'm not in deep enough water to have the waves and incoming water wash thru my scoop to get rid of the sand. So I usually try to dump it out and spread it around with my foot. However, since my scoop is a constant 6" diameter and fairly deep, the wet sand sticks to the inside of the scoop and is very tough to get out. I would think that the open top design like the Stealth has would probably be better. However, in deeper water, I'm not sure that the open top would be good.

Glenn

 

[frankie]

i myself think s/s is the way to go. the sand goes thru the scoop easier than alum.its like your bullrake.the steel keeps like all the mud in the rake, but when you have a s/s rake the mud get slides right thru. theirs a big difference.yes their heavy, but alum you can bend the tip,they get all pitted inside which holdes the sand. the s/s you will never have to replace. just my two cents

 

[OBN]

Weight, Durability, Functionable Design, Price

Funny you would post this as I was ready to do it on another forum, because I meet this past weekend with a design engineer on this subject. He had came up with a few new designs that he had models of and asked what I thought. Both were light, But one was very. Both had Lots of Holes, fiberglass handles, 6.5 inch x 12 inch buckets laser cut, all tig welded, very comfortable angle on the back to dig with, one was SS, the lighter of the two he would not say. His question was, would I pay extra for the less weight and extra work that went into it. {no price was discusted} With this I said I would like to field test both, and see if it is worth it {one was 14 gauge SS at less then 5 lbs., the other was less then 4 lbs. and .050 thick}. I took pictures of both but he ask they not be sent out or posted. I loved both, but I'm set for beach scoops, but the weight is a big factor, and I want one I can weld or get fixed without having to send it out. Plus A handle is a big plus. I know what MTP is talking about, every beach is different and requires different tools. I have been looking for a Miller scoop for the Bay and his lower bucket with a bent handle would work great, but I don't think it would be the right design with the fiberglass handle for the bay...... So in order, my priorities are.... Weight, Durability/Functionable Design, and Price...I'll be in OC/MD the 27th & 28th to test, then maybe the Bay a few days later...hope I can do a little video of each.......Joe

 

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[digum smacks]

i got an idea how about a titanium scoop super light super strong might be the best ever and damn expensive anyone thoughts on this one?

 

[Tank69]

As many gold rings as possible!

HERE HERE

 

[Tank69]

heres what I use an to me it works so good I even use it outa water in the volly ball courts an sand tot lots ........then again it could just be the need for a big scoop for big greedy paws

 

[Tank69]

Then there are times where I need something like this.. with hardware cloth inside

Dang MT you could plow a feild with that bad boy Bro lol

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

i got an idea how about a titanium scoop super light super strong might be the best ever and damn expensive anyone thoughts on this one?

There was a post on here, gentleman was making titanium scoop, he had a small hand sand scoop out of titanium, but he had a lot in it, a large beach scoop out of titanium would run really expensive...

http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.php/topic,303207.0.html

 

[kaptainkosmic]

i got an idea how about a titanium scoop super light super strong might be the best ever and damn expensive anyone thoughts on this one?

as an example the metal for a 14 ga. stainless water scoop might cost approx. $10.00 to $20.00 that exact same scoop made with .050 titanium would cost in the neighborhood of $100 to $200.00. the titanium would be stronger and only weigh about 2/3's of the stainless scoop, but remember that scoop full of bottom is going to be just as heavy regardless of what metal its made of. titanium is not nearly as friendly to work with, for instance it doesn't like to be formed into a 90 deg bend & and if you drill it you better have good bits, the right feed rate or lots of time & cheap bits!

i've seen many complaints about the cost of the better stainless scoops, do you think anyone would pay 2 1/2 to 5 times that cost to carry a scoop thats 1.5 lb's lighter? i don't but i may be wrong.

just my 2 cents worth.

steve

 

[GibH]

I have the same scoop as Tank69, Bert gave me a great deal.

 

[OBN]

I looking for a scoop for the older years, when carrying around a SS scoop of 5 to 6 pounds will be more of a task......where as one Of Titianum {three pounds} will be easier to deal with. I can get the stuff, and got a good man on it right now. Material is about 150..and labor is about the same..so 300 for a life time scoop that weights 3 pounds?? Joe

 

[ocjeff]

sandman, for being in the water the beach brute can't be beat. no good in the dry sand but fantastic when in the water. not to heavy and built well. hh jeff

 

[seeker41]

better ergonomics!! someone needs to put some thought into handle design and scoop angle. i have ideas but i gotta learn me some weldin.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

sandman, for being in the water the beach brute can't be beat. no good in the dry sand but fantastic when in the water. not to heavy and built well. hh jeff

I get by alright with my beachbrute II in the dry sand, I just dont like hunting the dry sand and so I don't do a lot of hunting there. I have only found one good find there, a 1/2 carot diamond ring, all the others were found in the wet sand so that is where I usually hunt....

 

[cloviscliff]

I want to see gold in my water beach scoop.

 

[Sandman]

Different types of bottoms really call for different types of scoops to do it best. But we have to learn to adapt to what we have. For water wading I like super strong SS buckets with a lot of dime 5/8" holes to sift sand fast so I can hopefully get the target on the first scoop and also have smaller holes to help catch smaller earrings.

I like a bent handle or a loop in the handle like the old Miller scoop. If the Miller scoop had more holes like the Sunspot and some others I would get one if made out of Titanium for light weight. Heck, we pay lots of cash for detectors and going cheap on the scoop is poor silly thinking.

 

[Jason in TN]

I will go with the gold rings in the scoop post.

Jason