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  1. #16
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Ah OK thanks.

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Heres another good looking scoop but I dont know the price yet. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,310353.0.html

    Here it is. Not much cheaper than the Stealth. http://www.prostockdetectors.com/REVC.html

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Heres another good looking scoop but I don't know the price yet. http://forum.treasurenet.com/index.p...,310353.0.html
    This scoop would be nice if it had larger holes for faster drainage but would be nice in plain sand. The other scoop is a knock off on the Stealth which is my favorite but could use some improvement that I would like but maybe others wouldn't. The wood handle is a plus as it floats upright if you let go of it. In the surf most any scoop can beat you to death.

    Weight now is a big concern for me where I want a light wight scoop but want a Miller style handle for easier placement of the point on the bottom. The Stealth is getting kinda pricey.
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    My scoop the handle is angled back a bit so I don't have to lean way forward over the hole to dig.
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  5. #20
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    I am going to purchase a water scoop - I have a nice RTG dry sand scoop. My question is regarding the angle of the long handle. I see some of them, like the Sunspot are at 90 degrees to the scoop and some seem to be angled back a bit. Are the ones at an angle easier to use? If so, can anybody make a suggestion. I saw the one on eBay for $99 with free shipping, and it is at a 90 degree angle. My RTG sand scoop is bent back and was not hard to use. I used it recently in the water for some very lightweight digging, but I can see where it would not hold up ever a lot of use even though it is reinforced in the back for kicking it into the sand. Sandman - the scoops you use seem to be at a right angle to scoop - what say you? I mostly hunt parks etc. but do want to start water hunting more often. I would rather spend a bit more money up front and get one that I will not swear at later because it is uncomfortable to use. Thank you all.
    Darryl

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Its got to be better than my homemade collender on a stick lol.

    It looks heavier than the stealth. Would this be a problem?

    If the wood handle is a problem in rough surf, couldnt I just use an iron pipe?
    All my scoops have wood handles and I hunt the ocean surf with no problems. The floating handle is a big plus if U lose your scoop (I have mine on a teather) and it just bobbs behind me till I need it
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    nuggetshooter, I have been using the right angle scoops for years and am about to give up the Sunspot for a new type that has the Looped handle like on the old Miller Scoops that Ron Lord uses. With the looped handle you can position the point down for a firm bite on the bottom with out having to bend over or get your face in the water every time when you are out chest deep. It is also easier to carry with the loop.

    Am thinking of adding a looped handle to the Sunspot.
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    The scoop looks nice, but what about the balance ? The handle is mounted in the bottom of the scoop,and no gravity in bottom.
    This make the scoop top heavy filled with sand and you need to use more power to keep it straight, i think that's the reason for the free gloves. And with the handle in a 90 degree angel is not easy to make that first dig good. My scoops handle is 45 degree and i can allways see the toe when digging. My scoop has the handle welded to the top of the scoop, makes it in balance when loaded and never tip over.
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  9. #24
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    OK - now that you all have posted pictures (thanks), I think I can get at my question better. Do they make a scoop like those pictured by Erikk, but with a handle angled like Normann? And, between the two styles, which is the better choice. I am trying to decide between the two styles, but it seems to me, and especially based on your comment Sandman (regarding the curved handle) that the angled handle would be easier to dig with than the one set to 90 degrees. Any pros and cons on both styles would be appreciated. I have never used a scoop in water other than just a few inches deep, and I used my sand scoop that is really not designed for water. I got a signal, however and wanted to investigate - lucky think I did since it was a nice silver ring. But, I am at a loss when it comes to what style to choose for the water. I like the idea of the handle floating so you can find the scoop, but I have not seen any that are angled with the wooden one attached that are fixed at an angle. Thanks again everyone - great info here.
    Darryl

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetshooter
    OK - now that you all have posted pictures (thanks), I think I can get at my question better. Do they make a scoop like those pictured by Erikk, but with a handle angled like Normann? And, between the two styles, which is the better choice. I am trying to decide between the two styles, but it seems to me, and especially based on your comment Sandman (regarding the curved handle) that the angled handle would be easier to dig with than the one set to 90 degrees. Any pros and cons on both styles would be appreciated. I have never used a scoop in water other than just a few inches deep, and I used my sand scoop that is really not designed for water. I got a signal, however and wanted to investigate - lucky think I did since it was a nice silver ring. But, I am at a loss when it comes to what style to choose for the water. I like the idea of the handle floating so you can find the scoop, but I have not seen any that are angled with the wooden one attached that are fixed at an angle. Thanks again everyone - great info here.
    Nuggetshooter,
    I have used scoops like Eriks, with both an angled handle and a 90 deg handle. I prefer the 90 degree handle because I can pick it up without dumping the contents out. I dont't have to put my face in the water to dig with it, but I am over 6ft. tall
    With the handle angled, it is a little easier to dig, but I wasn't strong enough to keep the the basket tilted enough to keep the contents from spilling out without "choking" way down the handle which did require putting my face int the water. I have had md'ers tell me that they definely prefer the angled handles if they hunt around docks, because they can dig under the edges and this is pretty much impractical with a 90 degree handle. If you have a chance try both, b4 you buy.
    Steve
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    KaptainKosmic

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetshooter
    OK - now that you all have posted pictures (thanks), I think I can get at my question better. Do they make a scoop like those pictured by Erikk, but with a handle angled like Normann? And, between the two styles, which is the better choice. I am trying to decide between the two styles, but it seems to me, and especially based on your comment Sandman (regarding the curved handle) that the angled handle would be easier to dig with than the one set to 90 degrees. Any pros and cons on both styles would be appreciated. I have never used a scoop in water other than just a few inches deep, and I used my sand scoop that is really not designed for water. I got a signal, however and wanted to investigate - lucky think I did since it was a nice silver ring. But, I am at a loss when it comes to what style to choose for the water. I like the idea of the handle floating so you can find the scoop, but I have not seen any that are angled with the wooden one attached that are fixed at an angle. Thanks again everyone - great info here.
    U want an angle do this: http://metaldetectingforum.com/showthread.php?t=47243

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Thanks for the posts and pix. Kaptainkosmic - I am not sure I understand the problem with the angled handle. If you pulled back on the angled handle, would the scoop not tip up and make the sand etc stay in the scoop - especially with a handle up 14-16 inches? Is it because of how tall you are?

    What do you all think of this scoop? http://www.nuttallenterprises.com/servlet/Detail?no=1
    Anybody use/used it? If so, any pros or cons? What do you think about the fiberglass handle vs wood?

    Thanks again for all you posts and opinions. All helpful in getting me to make the final decision.

    Have a great rest of the week.

    Darryl
    Darryl

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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Im having trouble deciding too. Im leaning toward this one but the holes are kinda small.
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by bigcypresshunter
    Im having trouble deciding too. Im leaning toward this one but the holes are kinda small.
    I like the amount of holes but they are for the sand only and would hold to many shells of small rocks. If only they were bigger holes. Also the handle attachment is for square handles.

    "What do you all think of this scoop?" http://www.nuttallenterprises.com/servlet/Detail?no=1
    This Diamond Head is a nice scoop and is cheaper than the Sunspot, but with it's angled bottom it tips over if resting on bottom. I guess we have to pick the best one and get used to using it as our preferences change.
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    Re: Sand Scoop

    Quote Originally Posted by nuggetshooter
    Kaptainkosmic - I am not sure I understand the problem with the angled handle. If you pulled back on the angled handle, would the scoop not tip up and make the sand etc stay in the scoop - especially with a handle up 14-16 inches? Is it because of how tall you are?

    What do you all think of this scoop? http://www.nuttallenterprises.com/servlet/Detail?no=1
    Anybody use/used it? If so, any pros or cons? What do you think about the fiberglass handle vs wood?

    Thanks again for all you posts and opinions. All helpful in getting me to make the final decision.

    Have a great rest of the week.

    Darryl
    darryl, i have not tried any of the helper handles like the back saver or pro handle i'm sure they would aid in keeping the contents from spilling out just like choking down does, either way in chest deep water your going to end up putting your face in the water. if your wet up to your neck does it really matter? i like the wood handle at 90 degrees because it floats & can be lifted straight up without spilling contents. it can be broken, with that said i have had the same wooden handle on my first scoop for over five years and it is still going strong. i have not used a fiber glass handle but they appear to be very strong, they do not float without help. i prefer the small holes because i dump scoop contents into my sifter and let waves & gravity do the work. no matter what size holes your scoop has you will spend quite a bit of time looking for your targets in your scoop. and the problem is compounded when a small target slips thru a hole and you have to either scoop again or decide the target isn't worth the effort.

    steve
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