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Jul 18, 2012, 05:14 PM
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Weight belt/Weight vest? How do you handle waves !
Just curious how everyone else deals with waves, i can't push my scoop down after mid thigh to waist high in water. I just don't weigh enough and these waves knock me around. I could stick to wet sand but i hear the majority of loot is in waist to shoulder deep in water, water that i can't dig in. I'm going to buy a 40 lbs weight vest or weight belt, i wish the ocean would just be calm for once :/
Do you guys use a weight belt? How do you push your scoop down in deeper water? Do you prefer wet sand or deeper water? Where have been your best finds?
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Jul 18, 2012 05:14 PM
# ADS
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Jul 18, 2012, 06:08 PM
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 Director-Search & Recovery Team of Oakland County.
My best finds are from ankle deep to neck deep. The bottom hardness governs if I need a weight belt but normally I don't like to wear one unless I am diving. A Sunspot Stealth scoop helps dig in.
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"TIME IS THE ONLY THING YOU NEVER GET BACK, WHY WASTE IT SWINGING A DETECTOR THAT ISN'T UP TO THE TASK."
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Jul 18, 2012, 06:12 PM
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 Just another Guy In Back
 Originally Posted by jesse09
Just curious how everyone else deals with waves, i can't push my scoop down after mid thigh to waist high in water. I just don't weigh enough and these waves knock me around.
Pizza and beer.
I'm fat enough to have extra weight on the scoop while at the same time the upper body fat helps me float if I get too deep.
Kind of a win-win situation~
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Jul 18, 2012, 06:17 PM
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 *************** WHAT YOU DO WITH THE FINDS YOU DIG UP IS YOUR BUSINESS AND NO ONE ELSES, IGNORE ANYONE ON A SOAPBOX TRYING TO PREACH OTHERWISE! **************
If your going to use weights use a belt, you need to be able to drop it quick in case you get in trouble. What does you scoop weigh?
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Jul 18, 2012, 07:19 PM
#5
This is my Scoop My homemade beach scoop
It prob weighs 3-4 pounds, i been speaking with a fellow member who's giving me insight since we live close to each other and he suggests i just wade in the water without weights/snorkel/goggles and just scoop not so deep out until i learn better. I think i should get my hands on a store made scoop!
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Jul 18, 2012, 07:29 PM
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 *************** WHAT YOU DO WITH THE FINDS YOU DIG UP IS YOUR BUSINESS AND NO ONE ELSES, IGNORE ANYONE ON A SOAPBOX TRYING TO PREACH OTHERWISE! **************
Mine weighs 5 pounds, it is the beach brute II and I can hunt in chest deep water with it.
HERE IS THE THING ABOUT RIGHTS, THEY'RE NOT SUPPOSED TO BE VOTED ON, THAT IS WHY THEY CALL THEM RIGHTS!
"If ye love wealth greater than liberty, the tranquility of servitude greater than the animating contest for freedom, go home from us in peace. We seek not your counsel, nor your arms. Crouch down and lick the hand that feeds you; and posterity forget that ye were our countrymen." --Samuel Adams
MY LIBERTY AND FREEDOMS ARE NOT YOURS TO GIVE OR TAKE!.......THEY DIDN'T MAKE US FREE, WE WERE BORN FREE, AS LONG AS WE HAVE THE 2ND AMENDMENT WE WILL REMAIN FREE!
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Jul 18, 2012, 07:50 PM
#7
 Shawn
Drink more beer....it seems to give me my own weight belt.
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Jul 18, 2012, 08:29 PM
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I don't drink beer, i grew up drinking to much soda that when i drink beer its just nasty to me. I drink liquor but i'm not going to get fat off of liquor nor do i want to get fat. I don't bust my ass at the gym which i hate to be counter productive and gain weight.
Treasure Hunter i am buying a scoop since mine is not sturdy enough and is to flimsy. It's homemade and the quality shows vs store bought. A fellow MD'r is selling me his since he is local also, i think the reason i became so discouraged is because digging was such a pain in the ass. With a stainless steel scoop it will be much easier to push down and cut threw the sand!
Plus it will hopefully weigh more, the problem was i just don't have enough weight to push it down. Well my current scoop at least
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Jul 18, 2012, 11:56 PM
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 CASPER
I use the moon bounce method - I bounce off my my scoop and jump up and down till I get it in to a depth that I think the target is at then pry
you can use the fan method - if you wear dive boots - which I always do - I place my riht foot over the target an fan wildly
you will blow a hole out - recheck - if target is louder - sediment should be looser and you may be able to scoop - if not just fan more
people wonder how I dig with out a weight belt in water over my head - if sand is loose - I will dive under and hand fan
if packed sand I will hover over the target and fan/flutter kick with both boots to blow a hole out - then I will use the "bounce " method
I have used this on about 6 gold rings this year in deep water
I only use a weight belt when I use my snuba or hookah system
make sure you get a quick release belt
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Jul 18, 2012, 11:56 PM
#10
 Melissa
 Originally Posted by jesse09
I don't drink beer, i grew up drinking to much soda that when i drink beer its just nasty to me. I drink liquor but i'm not going to get fat off of liquor nor do i want to get fat. I don't bust my ass at the gym which i hate to be counter productive and gain weight.
Treasure Hunter i am buying a scoop since mine is not sturdy enough and is to flimsy. It's homemade and the quality shows vs store bought. A fellow MD'r is selling me his since he is local also, i think the reason i became so discouraged is because digging was such a pain in the ass. With a stainless steel scoop it will be much easier to push down and cut threw the sand!
Plus it will hopefully weigh more, the problem was i just don't have enough weight to push it down. Well my current scoop at least
I have the same issue with fresh water searching. The clay bottoms can be very hard here and if I'm out further than my hips and try to put my weight onto the scoop I start floating. I just picked up a soft weight belt on Craig's list and used it for the first time today. The extra 40 pounds it ads does help me stay more solid. Now if I could just sharpen my scoop to a razor edge I would be clearing up these swimming areas. LOL.
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Jul 19, 2012, 12:15 AM
#11
 Detecting fever comes and goes.
Buy a diamond head sand scoop, first it's heavy so you will be able to scoop in the water, second the shape makes it penetrate the sand like a razor.
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Jul 19, 2012, 01:01 AM
#12
I like the diamond head sand scoop! Man that thing is nice, i'm afraid to invest so much money into this hobby and give up. Now i don't have an option if i want to back out, when i'm at the beach i get discouraged an want to go home. When i'm at home i just can't wait to hunt again, its a cycle. My scoop was angled but its just not sturdy and too flimsy. I want a real scoop now like the diamond head sand scoop and an empty beach with not 1 person. I hate the feeling of someone watching me so i'm still not comfortable at the beach.
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Jul 19, 2012, 01:12 AM
#13
 Detecting fever comes and goes.
Well you just don't had to worry of other people. When I go out hunting I concentrate in the detecting and most of the time I don't even look my surrounding areas. The diamond head is a great scoop. I love mine. It's build to last for a lifetime and maybe more. Don't be too afraid to invest in a good scoop it will always work for you and if you decide that you want out you will always find a buyer if the scoop is a good one, so your loss will be little.
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Jul 19, 2012, 01:35 AM
#14
Do not sharpen your scoop or you will get a nasty gash from it in rough surf.
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Jul 19, 2012, 02:08 AM
#15
Everyone with experience on this site will tell you to invest in the very best scoop that you can afford. You can always get most of your money back if you decide that you no longer have any interest in the sport ( addiction ) and they will also tell you that your scoop is at least as important as your detector because if you can detect a target but are unable to dig it then it is a waste of your time. Nothing is more frustrating than to get a good signal and then not to be able to recover it. Every dollar spent on a good scoop is money that will be recovered many times over.
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