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  1. #16
    se
    Jun 2012
    westside
    Garret ACE 350 (sold) Garrett AT PRO Garret pro pinpointer Minelab Excalibur II
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    That does it. Im gonna order a new detector asap. (if AT dont do good next try) Have to scan the internet for places to buy from. Bought 1 from US and 1 from Austria so far, and the pinpointer from US also, wonder where i will find the next one.
    Hard to find places in Europe to avoid taxes and customs for the Tesoro Sand shark or the Whites Surf DF.

  2. #17
    us
    Mar 2012
    Ft Myers, Florida
    Excal, Sov GT
    1,207
    488 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Last night i hunted a beach where a stiff NE wind had piled sand onto the beach creating a steep slope. Being that it was high tide, with the pounding surf i could hunt only the top of the slope. it was mushy sand and i held out little hope of finding anything of value. I did manage one silver necklass, but most surprising where the greenies. What are greenies? Long buried coins. I pulled several green quarters from the mush pile of sand. How long were these coins buried? Weeks, months, years? I don't know, but there they were with the fresh drops.

    From what I've experienced and witnessed along the shores of NJ and SW FL, nothing is gone forever. I've pulled dozens of 100 year old plus coins from the beach. And dozens more of silver coins from the teens to the sixties. Friends have found 200 and 300 hundred year old coins on the beach. If we ever get another Nor easter i hope to find some too. Nothing is gone forever. It's out there!!!
    Last edited by Native Floridian; Jul 31, 2012 at 10:32 AM.
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  3. #18
    us
    May 2009
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Anything that is dropped in the water will move parallel to the beach and away from shore due to longshore drift/current and gravity. The longshore drift will move the items parallel to the beach and gravity (and current) will move heavy items out into deeper water while moving parallel to the beach. As the heavier items drift out into deeper water and away from the longshore current they will move slower and into deeper water until the current is not strong enough to move them or it drops into a hole or is obstructed.

    Longshore Drift Animation

    https://www.google.com/search?num=10...ac.14DptRjKKT8
    Last edited by nickmarch; Jul 31, 2012 at 11:01 AM.
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    Research is more important than detector but Positive Thinking & The Laws of Attraction Rule!
    Think Gold get Gold! Think canslaw get canslaw and other garbage!

  4. #19
    us
    Retired

    Apr 2007
    Naples,fl
    Sea Hunter MK2 and AT PRO
    908
    413 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (2)
    Native Floridian,you can't get nor easterns from FT.Myers Fl . Only Nor western and South Westerns
    Last edited by ron lord; Jul 31, 2012 at 02:48 PM.

  5. #20
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    us
    treasurelagoon.wordpress.com

    Jun 2010
    East Coast Florida
    An older blue Excal with connector, remote, Skullie headphones, and various coils. Got rid of the rest of my machines.
    8,295
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    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Seems to me most opinions here hold some truth. There are so many variables that factor into our ability to access gold it's really not a matter of how fast it sinks, but rather a situation involving the many factors that can come into play which provides us the opportunity to access it. On calm freshwater lakes less factors come into play, but on ocean beaches that contain a lot of sand that is subject to the effects of the ocean, such as its tides, currents, etc., what was too deep to access today may be only a few inches from the surface tomorrow, or even with a single tide cycle change. Don't let "sink rate" psych you out too much, even though gold can sink very, very fast. I've found very little gold in recent weeks and yet I know it's only a matter of time before the sand moves in such a way that I'll be able to access a lot of it.
    "The key to finding gold is finding places where it can be accessed."

  6. #21
    se
    Jun 2012
    westside
    Garret ACE 350 (sold) Garrett AT PRO Garret pro pinpointer Minelab Excalibur II
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    5 times
    Another detector came into consideration.
    Garrett Sea Hunter mark 2 anyone had good or bad experience with that?

    That makes 3 detectors im thinking about:
    Tesoro Sand Shark (out of stock for about 3-4 weeks)
    Garrett Sea Hunter mark II (out of stock for about 3-4 weeks)
    Whites Surf Dual Field PI (Avalible but a bit more expensive)

    Now i know this question have been up here many times but all theese seems to be good detectors so is there any problems with any of them? (exept ill have to wait 3-4 weeks for 2 of them)

  7. #22
    us
    Retired

    Apr 2007
    Naples,fl
    Sea Hunter MK2 and AT PRO
    908
    413 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
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    Why wait,check around with different dealers . Someone should have one . I just bought a sand shark by calling around.Buy new.

  8. #23
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    Dag Nabbit

    Jul 2010
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    Quote Originally Posted by ron lord View Post
    Svensken77 this may help you. I found a copper Plate 3' sq. I been told it's about 1,000 years old . I found it in 3 feet of water and about 2 to 3 feet in the sand. It was below the beach sand, below the shell bed, below the clay ( about 1 foot thick ) into the suger sand which is fresh water.I have had two Archeolegest look at it, and am waitting for the British Museum to get back to me.The Copper Plate is a Sanskit Bible.The museum is the Worlds leading authority on Sanskit.
    Would LOVE to see the plate man, can you post some pictures of it?

  9. #24
    au
    Jul 2011
    North Coast NSW.
    Tesoro Sand Shark, Stavr Krepish II Scoop, Plugger Balanced Shaft.
    814
    260 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting
    Honorable Mentions (1)
    Quote Originally Posted by ron lord View Post
    Why wait,check around with different dealers . Someone should have one . I just bought a sand shark by calling around.Buy new.
    so true Rons, it is a world market - I'm shopping for a GT and I so far have it at about 3/5 retail! HH and find gold all!
    "Treasure, baby, Treasure!"

  10. #25
    se
    Jun 2012
    westside
    Garret ACE 350 (sold) Garrett AT PRO Garret pro pinpointer Minelab Excalibur II
    44
    5 times
    Quote Originally Posted by ron lord View Post
    Why wait,check around with different dealers . Someone should have one . I just bought a sand shark by calling around.Buy new.
    With the taxes and customs and deliverycost the Tesoro and the Garrett gets even more expensive over all than where i plan on buying from (Finland) and theres atleast 2 weeks deliverytime from the States so that makes it almost the same.
    I bought the ACE 350 from US (kellyco) at about the same price as here with taxes and shipping but that too was out of stock here when i was buying.
    The AT-pro i bought kind of expensive too from Austria but i got a pinpointer and some other stuff that i didnt need with it. (kellyco style )

  11. #26

    Jul 2012
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    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    The original question referred to how quickly depositions would form over a lost item in salt water. I don't know anything about Metal Detectors, but having been a merchant marine pilot for 20 years I can give some insight into depositions in salt water. If the waters are protected from wind and tidal surges with little current, it can take a very long time for sand to form shoals, and an object can remain with only a shallow covering for many years (remember the pictures they sent from the Titanic site). However, near shore, where I'm assuming you are working, particularly around pocket bays after a 'spring tide', shoaling can form as quickly as overnight. There are places I traveled around the Texas bays where keeping the channels open is a full time ongoing job for the Corps of Engineers. There were many places that I traveled through that were plenty deep yesterday, but today I would 'drag bottom' crossing. Around river mouths or in the rivers themselves, below the points shoaling can form very rapidly.

 

 
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