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    Returned to where I found the 1892 Commemorative Half; today found 1832 coin/ token

    typo: should read "1837" coin/token


    Hi ,

    Someone must have lost their old coin/ old token collection.


    Today, I continued hunting the area where I had found the "Columbus" half dollar, and in the dry sand I recovered a very historic Canadian Bank Token Half Penny associated with the Lower Canada Insurrection of 1837 .


    The lettering on the coin reads:

    PROVINCE DU BAS CANADA

    UN SOU

    HALF PENNY BANK TOKEN

    1837
    This was a dry sand find at upper end of the beach; I was so happy to find this token as I love History of any kind..any era...anywhere.

    As the tide was receding , I was also able to get in some hunting in the rocky area, and that 's where I found all the coins.

    Many of the coins were in full view laying on top of the mud, visible in small troughs, and against rocks..made of easy pickins.

    There has got to be some gold / silver in this area...I'll keep trying.

    Spoons are starting to show up again.

    Here's some pics and a bit of info about that Half Penny Bank Token

    Lorraine

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    LOWER CANADA
    The former Lower Canada is now the Province of Quebec. Most of the private
    tokens in Quebec were light weight, with many counterfeits circulating along with the
    genuine pieces. As commerce became more regular the banks instituted a policy of
    accepting the privates by weight only. Any system of official discounting engenders
    great discontent in the discountee, and to address this discomfort in the populace the
    largest banks petitioned for the right to strike their own tokens. The first authorized issue
    was the undated, incorrectly denominated, bouquet type "Un Sous" issued anonymously
    by the Bank of Montreal in 1835. These tokens were a wonderful success, and were
    released in great quantity. The following year the bank issued another token in its own
    name, again with incorrect denomination. Both of these are quite common in circulated.
    AUs are occasionally found. Other banks imitated the BOM pieces, also various
    entrepreneurs. The imitations all have the denomination correctly styled in the singular.
    None of the imitations are as common as the Bank of Montreal prototypes, but most can
    be found.
    The bouquet sous were succeeded by the "habitant" tokens of the Insurrection
    year 1837. These pennies and halves were issued by City Bank, Bank of Montreal, and
    Banque du Peuple. They're not as common as bouquet sous... The habitant on the
    obverse was associated in the mind of the Francophone public with Georges Papineau,
    key figure in the rebellion. One can gauge their popularity and the inadequate quantity
    released by the normal wear of surviving specimens. Most are banged up G. High grades
    are distinctly not around.
    When the insurrection was crushed (thereby becoming a "rebellion") Papineau
    escaped to the USA. It was thought that it simply wouldn't do to have money circulating
    with the arch-rebel's portrait, never mind that it really wasn't him. Bank of Montreal
    planned to replace the well loved habitant tokens with pieces showing the lovely "side
    view" portrait of the bank. The tokens ordered, struck, and paid for, the manager decided
    he didn't like them, wouldn't let them circulate, and the few surviving specimens are now
    infrequent auction items.
    The same three banks which cooperated on the Habitant tokens essayed another
    collaboration starting in 1842 with the "front view" tokens. These pennies and halves
    were popular and were issued in large quantities. They are much more common than
    bouquet sous, and are available in gratifyingly high grades.
    The Habitant type was revived by the Quebec Bank in 1852. These are not rare,
    but are not particularly common either.
    Last edited by lorraine; Sep 11, 2012 at 05:45 PM. Reason: wrong date
    Quod facis bene fac

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    Sweet token you got there

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    Nice Canadian Token Lorraine,a plus for historyIt's so funny I found a spoon & cars today to,didn't take a picture of the spoon tough,will post after I comment on yours..You do a Job well done on your photos & all the information about your Finds,your Gold & Silver will be nextWTG,,HH

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    Wow !! You've been having some great finds. Congrats on the new "honey hole".

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    Sweet old find lorraine, keep hitting those rocks.

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    Being a coin/token, I wonder if the metal would hold up to
    a little "restoration"? But being that old, probably best
    to leave it alone. Nice find Lorraine. Gold Nuggets
    It's amazing just how much treasure people loose and we manage to find.

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    Go Lorraine !
    You just reminded me that I found one here in NY on land about 10 years ago. I will have to check it out.
    Nice hit.
    Get some more!
    Gary G.

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    a lot of targets and a cool token Lorraine!!
    Debby

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    Looks like thats been there for a while...some nice old stuff coming from that spot.

 

 

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