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  1. #1

    Jan 2005
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    1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I studied the history, I read all the posts on the subject, I know the rules, I upgraded my equipment, and I am heading to Florida in a week (for business).

    I probally will only have one full day to hit the beaches of the Treasure Coast, but it will be fun. I am hoping for a storm early the week of Feb 7th. I will report my finds (if any) after the trip.

    Wish me luck!

  2. #2
    us
    Jan 2005
    Ocala florida
    Titan / Tesoro SLT/ Fisher F5
    137
    1 times

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I would like to know if some of you agree with my observations, I was on the beach (found nothing in the new sand ) when they did all the re-building and pumped in sand. I remember what that looked like. The beaches around the Treasure Museum looked basically the same a few weeks ago when I detected / looked over the area. I f people are expecting huge cuts and loss of sand - ( storm of the century - arrived at mertle beach, the next day,down on the beach - sand gone - 2 to 3 feet under the concrete retaining/ break walls for a 6 to 7 ft change !! access stairs hanging 4 to 6 ft in the air)here it's not the general case, looks to me like they will mostly be still hunting the newer sand south of the inlet. ?? Don't tell the tourest department, but I was not expecting it to look that good (bad for spanish coins ) Even Ponce Inlet after the first storms looked good ( bad ) and cut free. Days with out power and water and AC !! all that time visions of coins and deep exposed hard pack but not to be . or did I miss it ??

  3. #3
    Darod

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Sherpa t,

    I've been down there several times since the "canes" came through. I've noticed exactly what you have. Although in some areas I did see where the dunes were erroded to what looks like at least 4' of soil. However the beaches look as thick as ever. Not sure if we both missed it and perhaps the surf has returned the sand?

    I'm still working it on the weekends when I can,....you just never know what can wash up in the very next tidal change!

    Rod

  4. #4

    Jan 2005
    8

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Which areas of the Treasure Coast has NOT had new sand added (pumped in)? I get one day and I want to use it wisely.

  5. #5
    Darod

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Good question,

    Personally I don't know

    I will try and find out for ya and get back to you here.

    Rod

  6. #6

    Oct 2004
    stuart..the treasure coast..well, used to be
    Minelab Excalibur with a WOT!
    578
    8 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    None of the beaches have had sand pumped on them. Other than some bulldozer work to re-establish a dune line, nothing but normal beach mechanics have taken place. Sand moves laterally along a beach, and in and out, with the waves. After the storm, high tides and strong waves have flattened the beaches. It appears the major loss was sand deposited landward of the dune line. Steep cuts are temporary in nature. Fines are moved by wind and slight water movement..coarse sand requires more energy to move, such as heavy surf. Beaches are far from static..in the area of Ponce Inlet approx. 200,000 yds3 per year move past any line perpendicular to the ocean. Wind blown fines are captured by sea oats, sea grape, etc., which establishes a dune line...thus I feel it is unlikely anything old will be found on the surface of accruing (building up) dune lines. Questions?

  7. #7
    us
    Jan 2005
    Ocala florida
    Titan / Tesoro SLT/ Fisher F5
    137
    1 times

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I agree will all your sand movement mechanics, but - that beach had sand pumped on it and was raised feet higher the summer before this years hurricanes.
    I'm looking at my mental picture of were the sand was after that and the height to the dunes now looks the same to me ( deep )
    If I had only one day to hunt it would not be the museum beach area.
    But again this is only my thoughts and opions, if he has a good salt water detector and wants to work in the wet maybe he'll be the one, to say today's the day.

  8. #8

    Oct 2004
    stuart..the treasure coast..well, used to be
    Minelab Excalibur with a WOT!
    578
    8 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I thought you meant after the storm...sorry. Many stabilized inlets in Florida regularly undergo pumping/beach renourishment, as do beaches with commercial value. For inlets, it is sand trapped on the north side that is pumped across the inlet to the south side. For other beaches, it is crap on the ocean floor that is placed on the beaches. For instance, Stuart beach was renourished, and the resulting "beach" is largely composed of coarse aggregate that forms a steep, unattractive beach...this often is a giveaway as to which beaches are natural and which are refurbished.

  9. #9
    us
    Jan 2005
    Ocala florida
    Titan / Tesoro SLT/ Fisher F5
    137
    1 times

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I was just thinking, maybe I should have be more specific. The sand and bulldozers were in one specific area ( museum ) not the whole coast.
    I also meant the beaches seemed to come through overall much better than I expected, too much weather channel, had us thinking we were all floating to the gulf and back again.
    The ponce inlet north of the rock pile pier looked in tact, but, yes the sand fines were on the move and like a snow drift already filling in.
    So , should our visitor be looking on the south side of the inlet guys,... I'm on my way to buy , decided my life's not complete without a new Titan 3000 detector for the general use of the family.

  10. #10

    Jan 2005
    Florida East Coast
    73

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Was south of jetties at Sebastian last week. Timed it for low tide to search the water's edge. Very steep where the beach hasn't built back up (whether from bulldozing of dredging I don't know, but not natural looking at all). Found one new Canadian cent, but still not very good at ground balancing my new CZ 20. I miss having a meter. Found a few fishing sinkers on the other side of the jetties earlier in the afternoon. It's a bit of a drive for me. Might just wait for another storm before I try again.

    Happy hunting,
    BobJ
    ClamBob aka He Who Raises Clams...If it looks like a clam, eat it.

  11. #11

    Feb 2005
    1

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Hey, I'm new here & I'm getting ready to go to the Treasure Coast & the Keys & I wanted to make sure it was OK to Metal detect in both places. I read somewhere that it was illegal to hunt the Vero Beach area because of the 1715 shipwreck. Is this true & is it illegal anywhere else in Florida?

  12. #12
    Charter Member
    us
    Pirate of the Ays

    May 2004
    Satellite Beach
    Minelab Excal 1000
    1,721
    139 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Tone Junky, Welcome to the Forum. Please don?t believe those stories. You can metal detect Florida beaches to your hearts desire. The only exception is in national parks along the coast, and even then you can sometimes get permission from the ranger. Hunting in the water, as long as you don?t get within 3000 yards of the center of one of the wrecks. I would stay out of the water until you do some homework on the wreck locations, and you will need a GPS. You can find those locations posted in this Forum. However, anything found on the beach from the base of the dune, down to the mean low tide line is finder?s keepers, even on the beaches adjacent to the wreck sites.


  13. #13

    Feb 2005
    29
    1 times

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    so does that mean you can walk over the beaches that the motels sit on, or is that (motel) property??

  14. #14

    Oct 2004
    stuart..the treasure coast..well, used to be
    Minelab Excalibur with a WOT!
    578
    8 times
    Beach and Shallow Water Hunting

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    Any land west of the dune line on the east coast is private property. You can legally access the beach only thru a public access. Further, it is illegal to disturb the vegetation in the dune line, thus cutting thru undeveloped areas is discouraged. Be especially careful of the sea oats...they are the only thing that holds the dunes in place. Also, be careful where you park.

  15. #15

    Feb 2005
    29
    1 times

    Re: 1715 Spanish Plate Fleet

    I'm sorry, To clarify I mean walk from the public acess site detecting down the beach past motels but between the dune & water line.?

 

 
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