The game starts changing now

[bigscoop]

Mother nature is starting to stir, those northeasters starting to become more evident as we tip-toe into November and December. For those who can, and for those who are still willing to swing their thing on the beach despite the change in seasons then there is, perhaps, no better time to be on the beach. From now through about April/May, depending on the arrival of those warmer southerly winds, the beach will experience a great deal of change, more in some places then in others. All summer long the sand has continued to pile up one heap after the other but now mother nature is slowing gearing up to reclaim a great deal of it. In the months ahead she's going frequently strip the sand from the beach, those deep targets below often becoming exposed, and at least for a short period of time, left unprotected and well within range of your machine. If the fury of the sea gets angry enough some targets will even get cast onto the beach from their underwater haunts. It's usually chilly hunting and sometimes it's down right cold, sometimes even bitter cold, but for many who choose to endure these discomforts it will be worth it, their pockets and pouches often bringing treasure home. It's seldom easy hunting and it's seldom all that much fun, tis the season for the hardiest of the lot and you can bet they're preparing for it, if they're not already prepared, which is far more likely. Now it's just a matter of time, the waiting game, as Mother nature is finally on the move again.

 

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[Barrell]

Put new batteries in the PI and looking at a trip further south on Thursday when the winds should be calmer. Winds are supposed to crank right back up through the weekend.
Scoop , what county are you in?

 

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[bigscoop]

Put new batteries in the PI and looking at a trip further south on Thursday when the winds should be calmer. Winds are supposed to crank right back up through the weekend.
Scoop , what county are you in?

Volusia

 

[stitchlips]

Geeeee I hope you are right..... but I may have to drive over to your side to find some sand movement in the right direction.... ours just moves down off the dry.....

Cliff

There is nothing on the east coast but sand. I promise, nothing but sand.

 

[bigscoop]

There is nothing on the east coast but sand. I promise, nothing but sand.

I can vouch for that! Loads and loads of sand, and now piles and piles of weeds.

 

[Barrell]

Hit low tide this afternoon across the street from my house at Pepper Park. Very few hits as the sand has just been pulled from the dune line to the lower beach.

 

[GatorBoy]

Hey.. my best bud lives in the jetty apartments just down the street.
Real nice water spout there a few weeks ago.

 

[NCGREG]

As "Cliff" noted in another thread, a lot of times what will end up happening is that the surge just drags the upper sand onto the lower beach, giving the beach a different appearance that "seems" as though some sand has been removed, in essence the beach will just appear to be flatter. But if you look real closely once the surge begins to reside you'll notice a complete absence of that gray sand, denser and larger shell, etc., it will still just be mostly "fine sand" with a very heavy line of deposited weed on the upper beach. What you want to see happen is an obvious "sweeping" action of the currents across the beach, something that's going across the grain, if you will, has much the same effect of switching directions with a file. When you see this good things are about to happen wherever this is taking place.

The other thing I look for are the new or developing rips, the best ones being those that form that classic "T" shape. I've also done really well by looking for those newly formed shoreline depressions, you should be able to spot them by simply standing close to the waterline and looking up and down the beach for them. Often at low tide, even after things settle down, you'll still be able to see waves breaking into these depressions. This is where the typical waterline has taken a beating and been pushed back, the force of the constant beating eating into the sand and likewise exposing anything in it's path. Nine times out of ten you will encounter a scattering of shell above these depressions, there will also be a much sharper/steeper slope, and just one or two scoops into this slope will produce shell, black sand and clay, etc. The hunting can even be good 10 - 20 feet above these depressions as blasted items can get easily scattered about.

Once things really settle down you're going to see a lot of "false washes and runnels" on the lower beach, these will develop behind the mounds of sand that have been pushed onto the beach, these soft mounds of sand appearing as "sand flea" cities near the waterline. These false runnels and washes will likewise be soft, the slopes leading into them extremely gradual and also soft. A couple of scoops will reveal only more of the sand sand. Here you might get lucky but I wouldn't count on it. Instead, the runnels and washouts you'll be looking for will usually have strong flows passing through them, their bottoms will be firm and their slopes will be sharper. A couple of scoops will reveal the difference as you'll discover shell fragments, gray sand, and those little balls of clay, etc. This is where the old sand has seen significant movement, that place where heavier and denser items are likely to be exposed.

"The belly of the beach"......not hard to find and usually larger areas of the mid-beach that appear to be holding water at low tide. When these develop as a result of actual sand removal they will feel somewhat hard, they will appear somewhat gray, and they will maintain shell fragments and usually lots of small iron objects. Sometimes these areas can encompass several hundred yards of beach, sometimes they will be much smaller. But either way these are areas where a fair amount of sand has definitely been removed.

Hope some of this this helps.

Excellent observation Scoop! I managed to find a decent ripple trough that ran parallel down one of the local beaches that I went to today. Probably 100 yards long but very narrow, I walked out onto the hump between the trough and the low tide waterline and of course it was very mushy and useless. I managed to dig some clad out of the trough, and I was finding quite a few green nickles, rotten pennies, and green dimes,.. and some 4 and 5 oz. lead weights in the harder washed down slopes behind the trough. But there just wasn't any shell material laying ontop or mixed in within 20inches down. I just knew there would at least be a few pieces of light jewelry around the greenies and the lead, but I guess it's all still out of reach. Either hasn't been blown up out of the surf yet, or still covered up by the last dredging project...I just love beach renourishment projects, they do so much for saving the environment.

 

[RustyGold]

About 73-81 degrees today in SoCal not much wind with an early low tide!
Great opening post! I wanted to read the book!

 

[hubcap76]

Hey.. my best bud lives in the jetty apartments just down the street. Real nice water spout there a few weeks ago. <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=894461"/> <img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=894463"/>

I've got the video of that water spout on the left.

 

[GatorBoy]

Nice! They are both the same one.
A couple photos from the Treasure coast today.

 

[hubcap76]

Looks like I was a mile south of you at middle cove today maybe that isn't the beach I am thinking in the picture but maybe it is. Ya I took that photo on the left was a surreal morning thing got within 100 yards of main entrance of pepper park before dissipating. Nothing but a lot of aluminum scraps, fishing gear, and few few modern coins. Man those waves were kicking

 

[hubcap76]

Best cut I found today

 

[hubcap76]

Forgot I did find a message in a bottle today, waiting for the kids to open it

 

[GatorBoy]

You got the beach correct.

 

[hubcap76]

Here is the message in a bottle, sent to sea October 13, 2013, lat and longitude, small greeting with contact name and number. Location of departure was key west. So now the kids are going to draw something and we will add this stop off point rewrite the original message since it is way faded green pen. Seal it with wax, maybe put some gi-joe guy in it and send it back to the sea

 

[sponge]

<img src="http://www.treasurenet.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=894850"/> Here is the message in a bottle, sent to sea October 13, 2013, lat and longitude, small greeting with contact name and number. Location of departure was key west. So now the kids are going to draw something and we will add this stop off point rewrite the original message since it is way faded green pen. Seal it with wax, maybe put some gi-joe guy in it and send it back to the sea

Thats good stuff

 

[GatorBoy]

That's so cool.
Hey guys.. do you know what type coin this is?
It has the word "Castillo" meaning castle in Spanish.
It doesn't look like a Mexican peso to me.




The other side needs to be cleaned still.
Here's my take for the day.

 

[SusanMN]

Those kind of hunting conditions and the chance to find something old sounds absolutely perfect to me. I am totally envious of your ability to hunt through the fall and winter.

 

[hubcap76]

Gator, it's a Cuban coin. http://www.worldofcoins.eu/forum/index.php?topic=14306.0

Half way down the page

 

[GatorBoy]

Hey thanks.. haha.. imagine that...something from Cuba washed up on the beach in Florida. Who da thunk it? :-)