Metal Detector Rental

[Metal Magnet]

I have a buddy who is wanting to rent a metal detector near Destin. I'm assuming they do this. Any recommendations from the folks on Tnet?

Any help appreciated!

 

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[Sandman]

Most dealers won't rent metal detectors because of the loss of $$$ and wear and tear on the rental units. I worked at a detecting shop and the ones that wanted to find something that was lost didn't have the knowledge to operate the detector. Of the cheap ones we rented, the people came back without finding what they wanted. Good Luck....

 

[CaptEsteban]

Most dealers won't rent metal detectors because of the loss of $$$ and wear and tear on the rental units. I worked at a detecting shop and the ones that wanted to find something that was lost didn't have the knowledge to operate the detector. Of the cheap ones we rented, the people came back without finding what they wanted. Good Luck....

Yep !

 

[Metal Magnet]

Darn, ok thats what i thought. Thanks for the replies!

 

[lost items recovery]

Reilly's treasured gold in pompano beach Fl has rented out excals before but if you're out of state that info I probably useless. The fact is at least one place does so there has to be more that may.

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[Treasure_Hunter]

Kellyco rents detectors.....






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[el padron]

Reilly's treasured gold in pompano beach Fl has rented out excals before but if you're out of state that info I probably useless. The fact is at least one place does so there has to be more that may.

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An excal in the hands of a first time user would probably be absolutely useless. It's got quite a learning curve going for it...

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

An excal in the hands of a first time user would probably be absolutely useless. It's got quite a learning curve going for it...

Not really, first time user would usually be digging everything that didn't null.

I have loaned my spare excal several times to friends who wanted to hunt explaining what a null was and showing what a target sounds like, I told them to dig every thing that didn't null and showed them how to double check nulls..








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[Fletch88]

I've heard people say " the Excal has a huge learning curve" many times. For me it's the simplest machine there is to learn.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

I've heard people say " the Excal has a huge learning curve" many times. For me it's the simplest machine there is to learn.

I guess you can say it's got a learning curve if your trying to cherry pick targets but for me it was easy to learn...... I even used it for land hunting until I bought my land detectors.






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[Sir Gala Clad]

I would say the Excal is a fairly easy machine to learn but difficult to master.
The learning curve is not in the machine so much - once it is set up.
The difficulty lies in being able to effectively interpret what the multi variable tones mean
as they are not conclusive.

However, on the beach you can be very effective by following the simple rule of if it beeps dig it.
It's really how difficult or complex you want / need to make it.

In less trashy areas, you can use it in the all metal mode, where you get only one tone, and use it like a PI
for extra depth. Where I hunt, I have not noticed an appreciable increase in depth when hunting. So I mostly hunt in discrimination mode and cherry pick the targets I am looking for.

It is very flexible and powerful tool, definitely not a one trick pony.

I've heard people say " the Excal has a huge learning curve" many times. For me it's the simplest machine there is to learn.

 

[Fletch88]

Yes, I'm still trying to master it! I hunt in PP almost exclusively in saltwater and check targets in disc. I have noticed several inches in depth in PP over disc mode on my Excal 1000. When it is really deep and a faint rise in threshold, I have to start digging down sometimes 4-6" before disc mode will start to give a response.

 

[bigscoop]

I think the variations in the Excal experience is largely a user difference. I use disc and PP both on a regular basis and I see very little difference in depth, maybe an inch or two at most depending on the target. As far as a learning curve, I think the changes in threshold along with the multiple tones tends to confuse a lot of people who aren't use to that sort of a thing, for them the learning curve is probably greater. One thing to remember about the Excal is that when hunting in disc the threshold can still shift over a target without presenting a tone, so even in disc it is still hunting deeper then a lot of hunters realize. Whenever I experience this shift in threshold while in disc I always switch to PP and rescan the area. This same thing can be said of nulls, especially when using the larger coil, if that threshold returns with a mid to high pitch then it may not be iron.

 

[Jason in Enid]

Getting back to the original question....

I have a buddy who is wanting to rent a metal detector near Destin. I'm assuming they do this. Any recommendations from the folks on Tnet?

Any help appreciated!

The vast majority of places that rents detectors only rent out very basic units like Compadres. Depending on what your friends wants to do with it, a basic unit may work, it may not. Any time friends / family ask to borrow a detector I only ever loan out a simple unit like my SM PI pro, compadre, etc. For someone who doesn't know the detector and wont have it long enough to learn, simple is better.

 

[Sir Gala Clad]

I believe the reason(s) for the variation(s) in Excalibur performance are far more complex:
Essentially this detector is a switch and potentiometer type of instrument which wears and deteriorates over time plus it built and repaired with discrete components whose bias will drift. That is the reason some detectors are hot in performance while others are not within the same model. The performance will also be affected by the skill and competence of the technician which assembled/repaired a given detector and if it is a variant of a factory model which has been customized for improved performance.

To summarize the above there is a variation in the performance of individual detectors as well a difference in performance between Excalibur Models/Variations.

Vlf detectors can detect incredibly deep targets. A silver cache was detected with a CTX 3030 at six feet, and I have detected and retrieved oversize targets with the Excel ll 1000 and Bounty Hunter Pioneer 505 at three feet. Since you don’t want to go there unless you know it is not trash. VLF detectors are usually calibrated to tone on a quarter size target ( most are coin shooters) say for example 6 to 8 inch on a mid level detector and 10 to 12 inch on a more expensive detector.
The difference in depth between pin point and discriminate is also beach specific depending on the mineralization, and conductivity of the soil which can change dramatically on some beaches, while others it is so slight that it is difficult to automatically ground balance. Further if there are iron objects close to the search and receive coils it may distort the magnetic field(s).
And like you said it is a matter of your hunting style and your skills such as overlapping, sweep speed, coil control, etc, etc.
IIRC, 27 variables have to be solved simultaneously to determine the location of a single target.

I think the variations in the Excal experience is largely a user difference. I use disc and PP both on a regular basis and I see very little difference in depth, maybe an inch or two at most depending on the target. As far as a learning curve, I think the changes in threshold along with the multiple tones tends to confuse a lot of people who aren't use to that sort of a thing, for them the learning curve is probably greater. One thing to remember about the Excal is that when hunting in disc the threshold can still shift over a target without presenting a tone, so even in disc it is still hunting deeper then a lot of hunters realize. Whenever I experience this shift in threshold while in disc I always switch to PP and rescan the area. This same thing can be said of nulls, especially when using the larger coil, if that threshold returns with a mid to high pitch then it may not be iron.

 

[Sir Gala Clad]

I suspect that there is less of a difference in depth when using Pin Point (all Metal) Mode or Discrimination Mode on the Excalibur ll 1000 which I hunt with as it has more shielding than the Excalibur 1000.

Yes, I'm still trying to master it! I hunt in PP almost exclusively in saltwater and check targets in disc. I have noticed several inches in depth in PP over disc mode on my Excal 1000. When it is really deep and a faint rise in threshold, I have to start digging down sometimes 4-6" before disc mode will start to give a response.