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  1. #31
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    Quote Originally Posted by SouthFLdigger View Post
    When you are in a beach filled with shallow 6-8" crusty pennies that resound with a high tone on a multiple tone machine just like a class ring or a dime, one learns to appreciate an LCD based system that at those depth can very accurately ID a zinc penny and save valuable time! However if the signal is deep and high tone i always dig ID or not !
    I am a dig everything kind of guy, especially in sand. When you find a 10.00 gold coin that rings up as a zinc penny, you will understand me. I have a spot I call bullet beach. It is absolutely loaded with 30 cal bullets and brass from machine gun practice from WW1. Also has shotgun, 45 cal and 50 cal bullets and brass there. However now it is a beach for pretty rich boaters. Not many detect here because of all the bullets and trash. I don't mind. I get them and the gold.

    One dives trash from bullet beach:
    One dives brass from bullet beach:Another dive:

    I can't find a picture of all the brass and bullets I have recovered from there. Over 10 gallons so far. I just can't pass up any signals!!
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  2. #32

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    If I could afford a CTX I think a better strategy maybe to buy an excal
    and a cz21. 2 detectors in case one fails. if this has already been suggested sorry to lazy to read the whole thread.Lol

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    Like I stated earlier, I have an excal 1000, remote pp, carbon straight shaft and a 15" coil. I use a shoulder harness and bungee. It does very well. I thought I had the best beach machine I could get . UNTIL I got a CTX and learned it.
    I think the biggest mistake that people make is to use a machine for a while then get something else and on and on... If it's a good machine. LEARN IT! Many swear by the excal . It is durable, but remember, to buy a new excal is about 1500.00. then to get a straight shaft, a pp mod and maybe a bigger coil., your at the same price of a CTX and you also just voided your warranty. The CTX has pinpoint, carbon straight shaft, coils that are easily swappable for a 17, 11, or a picker for the park. You get to choose your own tones for what you like. You can eliminate certain targets if you wish. You can see multiple targets at once on your screen. You have no iron masking. And it is deep. You can run headphones or ear buds. You can go wireless. The coil wires are inside the shaft. You have GPS, time, you can plot your finds, you have multiple, multiple programing to make it the way you want it. With a 5 dollar o ring you can make it go MUCH deeper than 10'. Ask Frogmaster. ..
    I hunt exclusively with the CTX and a 17". Yes its not light but with my Minelab shoulder harness I can hunt for about 6 to 8 hours with no issue. I KNOW what I have before I dig it 85% of the time. Yes after awhile you can get decent with an Excal but not as accurate as the CTX. I do prefer the excels pinpoint when it's time to dig . It's spot on. The 17" CTX halo's and makes it a bit more difficult but not overly.

    As for the CZ, I hear it is a good machine as well but I have no experience with it.

    People usually only hype what they love and aren't open minded. You'll be hard pressed to get an unbiased "best" machine. To many variables. There is no perfect machine.
    Last edited by jeepGold; Mar 25, 2016 at 11:58 AM.
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    Well said jeepGold. My beach hunting arsenal has included the SovGT, Excalibur Blue 1000 and now the CTX 3030. The capabilities of the CTX are far superior than the other machines...
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    Gromu: I would purchase the CZ21 with the 8" search coil as it is easier to sweep and pin point with in the water. With the AT Pro for dry and wet sand, and the CZ 21 for wet sand and shallow water hunting you would have a killer combination at a lower cost and less to learn.


    Brackishwater lake hunter from Poland. Im moving soon and I will live near Baltic sea. Im using garrett at pro now but I know it won't work in salt water. I need some advice on good beach and salt water detector. I compared ctx, cz21 and excalibur II on youtube tests and metaldetectorreviews.net Im little confused and I don't know which one I should choose. On metaldetectorreviews CZ21 has avg. depth rating much better than ctx and excalibur. From other hand cz21 is only two frequency detector and pretty old design. CTX is leaking and excalibur has pretty poor discrimination (saw youtube test where u can see excalibur won't see gold ring under iron nail). Anyone here used all 3 detectors and can help me choose? Beaches and waters in Poland are full of trash. Sorry for bad English.[/QUOTE]
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    Quote Originally Posted by penzfan View Post
    Well said jeepGold. My beach hunting arsenal has included the SovGT, Excalibur Blue 1000 and now the CTX 3030. The capabilities of the CTX are far superior than the other machines...
    Except for the fact the 3030 only goes 10' deep according to the specs. Do you guys take it deeper

  7. #37
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    Quote Originally Posted by can View Post
    Except for the fact the 3030 only goes 10' deep according to the specs. Do you guys take it deeper
    LOL probably not. I did hear of one guy that replaced the two gaskets and said he went to 40'. If true I have no idea. I would think nobody would attempt to TRY to drown a 2500.00 machine. However, I could be very wrong.
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  8. #38
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    Quote Originally Posted by can View Post
    Except for the fact the 3030 only goes 10' deep according to the specs. Do you guys take it deeper
    I Think frogmaster has modified his and taken it deeper than 10'. Check with him.
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  9. #39
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    I think Frog has been at least 30' with his maybe deeper. I just don't have the $$$ to risk it

  10. #40
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    Why bother...
    IF you are gonna hunt water... get the "tool" that is designed for it.

    X2.
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    Quote Originally Posted by can View Post
    Except for the fact the 3030 only goes 10' deep according to the specs. Do you guys take it deeper
    Beware - you are putting your wallet and the CTX 3030 in harms way, by going deeper.
    It takes far more than adding a thicker casket or multiple gaskets as there is the USB port that can leak,
    and the visual display is not designed for depth.

    You may get by with it, most likely not.
    Use the machine as designed and be happy!
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  12. #42
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    what is reverse discrimination?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan James View Post
    what is reverse discrimination?
    With the excal it is hunting in pinpoint mode then switching to discrimination mode to see if target is iron...PP mode is deeper....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Treasure_Hunter View Post
    With the excal it is hunting in pinpoint mode then switching to discrimination mode to see if target is iron...PP mode is deeper....

    Silly question TH. If the Excal finds deeper items in PP mode, How do you switch it to discrimination mode to see if it is iron if discrimination mode can't pick up the target?

    I guess I am a bit confused!! (Easily done though)
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    Quote Originally Posted by ScubaDetector View Post
    Silly question TH. If the Excal finds deeper items in PP mode, How do you switch it to discrimination mode to see if it is iron if discrimination mode can't pick up the target?

    I guess I am a bit confused!! (Easily done though)
    You switch to desc to see if it sees it, if it doesn't you remove sand till it does see it, if it nulls in different directions in desc mode, N-S and E-W then it is iron and move on...

    Many times I have to remove several scoops of sand before desc sees it.
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