What is wrong with people???

[wraith1821]

Went for a little night hunting last night with my daughter on the beach. After about ten minutes walked up on a group of people obviously nor from around here DIGGING UP A SEA TURTLE BED. They absolutely destroyed the whole thing. Couldn't believe the disregard. Sad times...

 

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[Crispin]

It is times like that when I am glad I detect armed. Confront them, let them attack you, and then "Stand your ground." Gotta love Florida law...

Officer: "why did you shoot?"
Metal detector who just got in fight with sea turtle egg hunters: "I was in fear for my life."
Officer: "Why?"
MDWJGIFWSTEH: "I was hit with multiple blows from different people and thought they would kill me."
Officer: "No charges need to be filed here. He was standing his ground."[/QUOTE

Confronting them could be considered provoking them.
Should the use of deadly force be justified by you proving your life was threatened by a proven means and ability...the civil suit to follow and having killed or maimed some one over sea turtle eggs would be somber. Then still , hope intent does not come into play ; unless you have diplomatic immunity.

I'd state nests are Protected by law and move on to a site where a discrete call could be made to authorities.
Then watch my environment returning to my entrance and or vehicle for prying eyes and avoid vehicle due to confirmed association with it and it's plate , till clear.
But then my use of deadly force is restricted to valid threat of my life, as a last option I'm not eager to employ.[/QUOTE

"Hope springs eternal in the human breast: Man never is, but always to be blest." Alexander Pope

Enough is enough...truth of the matter is would of just given them all a beat down and let the cops stroll in later to cuff 'em. My point was that a man needs to stand up and confront the evils in front of them. A man who stands up for nothing...stands for nothing.


Float like a butterfly and sting like a bee.[


Get worn out fighting all evil . Having hosted refugees who thought if you catch it you can eat it , as in their native country.....evil was not the right term for their actions , though surprise was.
Being followed home I've experienced by both police and an angry for a fight civilian.
Added watching my backtrail to watching my front ,and sides.
A neighbor got stomped the same way.

Having a weapon does not create more targets for my combating evil. Nor would I have it add me as a target any more often.
I'll fight if needed and go down swingin. Been there a time or two.
Learned to avoid encouraging them though.
A patient hunt trumps chasing a thinking quarry into a table turned , button hook ambush.
A passion creating an event allowing discovery of any of some ones patterns,habits,home,vehicle, work ,ect an invite for fought evil to retaliate.
Choose exposure wisely lest a real evil targets the exposed.

The news media's exposure for shooting a turtle egg raider...heck no. Let alone the relatives and comrades of the leaky party.

To be or not to be-that is the question:
Whether 'tis nobler in the mind to suffer
The slings and arrows of outrageous fortune,
Or to take arms against a sea of troubles,
And, by opposing, end them. To die, to sleep-
No more-and by a sleep to say we end
The heartache and the thousand natural shocks
That flesh is heir to-'tis a consummation
Devoutly to be wished. To die, to sleep-
To sleep, perchance to dream. Aye, there's the rub,
For in that sleep of death what dreams may come,
When we have shuffled off this mortal coil,
Must give us pause. There's the respect
That makes calamity of so long life.
For who would bear the whips and scorns of time.

I got spirit and fight left in me for most of us. I am not ready to back down, not ready to relent, not ready to give an inch. There is a force in this world that is right and good. I still stand for it. My methods may be crude, my plans may be ill thought out, and the outcome may not be as planned. However, I am here, and I stand from every mountain top, from every pinnacle that I am alive and I am still fighting!

 

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[Terry Soloman]

It's seafood people - Relax!

 

[releventchair]

It's seafood people - Relax!

I'm relaxed. Just pokin a friend with a stick.
Seaturtles are worth encouraging.

 

[Terry Soloman]

We used to eat them in the Bahamas back in the 1960s when I was a kid. Meat tastes like beef, and the eggs are delicious!

 

[Deft Tones]

FWC are like gangbusters!

Saw them descend down the pier under Marco Island bridge one night - like 8 of them! I was like WTF!? Standing there fishing and they ran past me like a murder had happened, guns drawn, amped up, yelling....

15 min. later two officers walk pst with a very large jewfish dangling out both ends of the largest igloo ice chest cooler. Maybe 100 - 150 lb fish? 5 officers escorting two cuban guys that are cuffed and following right behind them.

Another fisherman standing next to me smiles and says, "I told them to let it go. Illegal catch". Patting his phone in his pocket.

I studied all the regulations well after that experience.

 

[lookindown]

Are you sure they weren't from the turtle huggers group? I watched a group of them dig one up in Mexico Beach that they had monitored and it was past due for them to hatch. They dug it up and helped many escape the nest and had like flowerbed edging laid down in sand that helped guide them down to the water. The only problem was all the idiot tourists started screaming and going crazy which ruined the moment.

I bet your right.

 

[wraith1821]

The cops definitely got there in time. Not sure if they were arrested but I assume so. Not huggers, these nests are right by home on miami beach and are new. The huggers also don't vandalize and build makeshift forts out of the rental chairs. Don't carry a gun anymore. Temptation too high to kneecap idiots.

 

[ivan salis]

doom on them.. if they were harvesting the eggs for eating or just being punks and busting them up for fun ... those morons will get some jail time and heavy fines for it --as they should --buttholes..

 

[teklord]

Shaw faces a third degree felony charge for “violating the marine turtle protection act” as “taking and possessing sea turtle eggs is punishable by up to five years in prison and a fine of $5,000.”

Florida Man Charged After Taking Over 100 Sea Turtle Eggs

 

[RustyGold]

It would be difficult to retaliate with your child there with you for her safety.

 

[wraith1821]

Agreed. Thats what fwc is for.

 

[Doubter in MD]

I did see a knucklehead on the news the other night, somewhere on the east coast. He got himself arrested, I guess the turtle eggs are some sort of aphrodisiac.... Call me a prude if you want, but turtle eggs don't get me riled up, not the way big silver does....

So I am guessing that your significant other is usually hoping you find big silver?

 

[wraith1821]

I dont have one. But if I did im sure she would

 

[fongu]

Sad but it happens all the time. Some people don't respect the law and make it bad for all of us.

 

[BigWaveDave]

So I am guessing that your significant other is usually hoping you find big silver?

Ha! She will never forget the night of Jan 7th of this year!

 

[ARC]

The world is full of idiots. You tube is full of 'em, well documented.

There was one where a guy jumped on a moose a year ago from a boat. (while it was swimming) It took a year, but they caught the genius.

They try to ride Manatees around here. I'm happy to see when they get caught.

IF I see anyone riding OR trying to jump on manatees or any other wildlife...

I am gonna jump on and ride the person doing it :P