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    Newbie'ish looking for California beach detector advice. Sand Shark + AT pro vs cz21

    I've spent the last week reading TONS of posts and have some questions.

    I want a detector for California beaches. Probably only in wet sand and shallow water. I wouldn't be apposed to something that is fully submersible because I could see myself getting into underwater detecting.

    My research has led me to the Sand Shark. Im not afraid to dig everything and it seems to do well for the money. I am willing to spend more but probably not interested in spend 2500 on a 3030. I ideally want to have something for hill and dry sand plus high mineralized sand. I know this will require two machines.

    I'm thinking a Sand Shark + At Pro for about $1200 bucks. Or does anybody think I should just go for the CZ-21 for an all around?

    I'm also open to any other options but ideally 80% of what I will be doing is salt water beach hunting. I also have a though I assume California is really competitive. Is it better to have a really good detector to find what others miss or with the tides is new stuff always coming in. (newbie questions I know haha)

    Thanks!

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    Buy a used multi-freq machine with a huge coil, or go with the new Tesoro Sand Shark, and Vaquero - both for about $1,050.00.

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    I like my White's Duel Field Surf PI machine. I don't miss much. It detects pretty deep. Waterproof to about 300ft(?)
    At the beach you will want to dig everything so a good scoop needed as well.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Terry Soloman View Post
    Buy a used multi-freq machine with a huge coil, or go with the new Tesoro Sand Shark, and Vaquero - both for about $1,050.00.
    Which uses multi-frequency would you recommend? Thanks for all the advice Terrry!

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    The Excal II is as good as the CZ-21. The AT Pro is great in the dry sand. I have both but use the Excal about 90pct of the time. If you make it up to Santa Monica one day, I'll let you tryout each machine.

    You are correct, tons of hunters on the beach. The type of machine in combination with being in the right place at the right time is the trick.
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    Quote Originally Posted by redcobra8u View Post
    The Excal II is as good as the CZ-21. The AT Pro is great in the dry sand. I have both but use the Excal about 90pct of the time. If you make it up to Santa Monica one day, I'll let you tryout each machine.

    You are correct, tons of hunters on the beach. The type of machine in combination with being in the right place at the right time is the trick.
    That would be great! I actually go to a LA about every other weekend visit my girlfriend. We took a little late night stroll last night on Santa Monica Beach. Seemed like a super low tide. Looked like 30 yards of wet sand!

    I would absolutely take you up on that offer sometime and buy you a beer/lunch in exchange for your time/advice!
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    Quote Originally Posted by expl0rer View Post
    That would be great! I actually go to a LA about every other weekend visit my girlfriend. We took a little late night stroll last night on Santa Monica Beach. Seemed like a super low tide. Looked like 30 yards of wet sand!

    I would absolutely take you up on that offer sometime and buy you a beer/lunch in exchange for your time/advice!
    Cool. PM me and we can set something up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by expl0rer View Post
    Which uses multi-frequency would you recommend? Thanks for all the advice Terrry!
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    I'd go with a Minelab Excal or Sovereign. I've had a CZ70 which loved iron and a sand shark which of course missed nothing. You say you'll dig everything but when your in the wet sand and dig seven or eight hairpins in a row or a few bottle caps ten inches deep you'll be wishing your machine would have the ability to let you know before hand. The Minelab BBS technology just saves you so much time passing up the trash you have much better odds of finding the good stuff. The older Sovereigns work as well some say better than the newer ones and they always come up on the auction sites as well as here. I have to say though if you really want to clean up your beaches Tesoro has an unmatched warranty and repair center and that's a huge selling point over the other choices.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SocalJim View Post
    I'd go with a Minelab Excal or Sovereign. I've had a CZ70 which loved iron and a sand shark which of course missed nothing. You say you'll dig everything but when your in the wet sand and dig seven or eight hairpins in a row or a few bottle caps ten inches deep you'll be wishing your machine would have the ability to let you know before hand. The Minelab BBS technology just saves you so much time passing up the trash you have much better odds of finding the good stuff. The older Sovereigns work as well some say better than the newer ones and they always come up on the auction sites as well as here. I have to say though if you really want to clean up your beaches Tesoro has an unmatched warranty and repair center and that's a huge selling point over the other choices.
    Thanks for the detailed response! I hear you for sure on the hairpins (my girlfriend leaves them EVERYWHERE in my apartment and I already hate them). Would you say the BBS technology is accurate enough that you can pass stuff like that for sure? I'm the kind of guy that I would just have to know what's down there but after 5,000 pins I might pass haha! Are the Minelab Excal or Sovereign a good machine for inland California or just for salt water?

    With the warranty considerations i'm leaning towards going sandshark and an atp pro for non ocean detecting. Maybe after 5,000 boby pins I buy something more expensive and maybe save up for a 3030.

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    Quote Originally Posted by expl0rer View Post
    Thanks for the detailed response! I hear you for sure on the hairpins (my girlfriend leaves them EVERYWHERE in my apartment and I already hate them). Would you say the BBS technology is accurate enough that you can pass stuff like that for sure? I'm the kind of guy that I would just have to know what's down there but after 5,000 pins I might pass haha! Are the Minelab Excal or Sovereign a good machine for inland California or just for salt water?

    With the warranty considerations i'm leaning towards going sandshark and an atp pro for non ocean detecting. Maybe after 5,000 boby pins I buy something more expensive and maybe save up for a 3030.
    The AT Pro is a huge mistake for the beach as it sucks anywhere near wet sand. What do you need a screen for at hunting sand. The CZ-21 or Excel both have more than one frequency but they would be heavy for inland hunting.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sandman View Post
    The AT Pro is a huge mistake for the beach as it sucks anywhere near wet sand. What do you need a screen for at hunting sand. The CZ-21 or Excel both have more than one frequency but they would be heavy for inland hunting.
    I know both of those are great machine but I don't know if I want to spend that much right off the bat. How do you feel about the sandshark? I know i'll be digging lots of junk.....

    And then my plan is down the road get something for in-land

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    I got tired REAL quick using a PI machine years ago. Went with an Excalibur and never looked back. It's not a great land machine however. I use the E-trac for that, wet sand, and shallow water. You just have to be real careful not to accidentally get it wet up at the control box. If you insist on digging everything, the Sand Shark is a good choice for the money. There again, not a good land machine, nor is the CZ21. The CTX3030 is the best all around machine for your needs, but, if price is an issue, do what Terry recommended and get two machines. It's always nice to have a backup anyway!
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudamark View Post
    I got tired REAL quick using a PI machine years ago. Went with an Excalibur and never looked back. It's not a great land machine however. I use the E-trac for that, wet sand, and shallow water. You just have to be real careful not to accidentally get it wet up at the control box. If you insist on digging everything, the Sand Shark is a good choice for the money. There again, not a good land machine, nor is the CZ21. The CTX3030 is the best all around machine for your needs, but, if price is an issue, do what Terry recommended and get two machines. It's always nice to have a backup anyway!
    Thanks for the advice!

    When you say the Excalibur isn't a good land machine you mean like way inland? I was thinking of using it for wetsand. I'm pretty torn between the sandshark and the Excalibur 2. I know it's highly debated but our of the excalibur and the sandshark which one is deeper? My thought are in highly hunted areas that depth is important

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    If you want deep, Sand Shark 10.5" beats the Excalibur with a 15" coil

 

 
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