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    Grumpie

    Oct 2016
    Cedar Park, Texas
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    Garrett atx extreme vs Makro multi kruzer

    Buying for saltwater beaches which one would be best?
    Last edited by Grumpie; Feb 03, 2019 at 09:41 AM.

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    Oct 2014
    New Hampshire
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    I’d broaden your consideration. Pulse vs. multi freq. if you want to dig everything and deep, then pulse! But I’d rather the tdi beach hunter imo. You’ll save hundreds. Multi freq units, you should consider the Excalibur or cz21 in addition to multi kruzer. I’m not sure the kruzer runs all 3 freq simultaneously. There’s a review of the kruzer on YouTube by “Detector comparisons” FYI.

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    Mar 2011
    San Diego
    Equinox 800, Treasure Probe IV, E-Trac, 3 Excal 1000's, White's GM3 V-sat. White's TM808, VibraProbe, 15" NEL Attack, 5X10 Joey, Steath 920ix and 720i, TRX, etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpie View Post
    Buying for saltwater beaches which one would be best?
    Neither. If you want discrimination and are not going deeper than 10 feet underwater, get (in my order of choice) an Equinox 800, 600, or CTX3030. If going deeper than 10 feet, the Excalibur, or CZ21. If you want to dig everything, including nails, staples, nuts, bolt, etc, a PI machine. Single frequency machines are not the best in salt water environments.
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    Retired

    Apr 2007
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    The ATX is the deepest detector out there today it also have some disimination . I had owh one for years.

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    "Dew" Meeker

    Mar 2006
    Gulf Coast, Fl
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    But Ron...... most of the time ive seen you you are swinging the Xcal? I wont deny PIs are DEEP.... but the trash to treasure and the tole it takes on a OLD body may not be worth the totals at years end. It may well also depend on location. Here in Fl ..... there are times a PI should be used ..... but it isnt during recent drop times. You just cover more water/beach with a disc VLF and most give good depth especially here in Fl.

    CudaMark.... that may be changing as they learn more about GB and salt balancing single freqs like on the MDT 8000 on the beach. If you are seriously considering a PI.... wait. The Fisher may be the next best thing.

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    Grumpie

    Oct 2016
    Cedar Park, Texas
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    The detector will be for dbl duty and I'm buying it primarily bc I'll b spending 2wks in Hawaii. 10' waterproofing depth is plenty and a pi machine would work in the gold fields for me as well. Why the 800nox over the Mk does it really have a big edge on the MK
    Last edited by Grumpie; Feb 04, 2019 at 10:05 AM.

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    Grumpie

    Oct 2016
    Cedar Park, Texas
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    I heard the MK was doing well in saltwater not to say the nox is not what about the anfibio?

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    Grumpie

    Oct 2016
    Cedar Park, Texas
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    Most crap on a beach is non ferrous so you're going to dig it anyway right. So a pi machine wouldn't be terrible I wouldn't think
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    Grumpie

    Oct 2016
    Cedar Park, Texas
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    My gut is telling me go with the ATX waterproof pi detector with iron discrimination

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    Retired

    Apr 2007
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    If you buy the ATX , buy the PRO SWING from MINELAB . you like the ATX better that way

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    Apr 2007
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewcon4414 View Post
    But Ron...... most of the time ive seen you you are swinging the Xcal? I wont deny PIs are DEEP.... but the trash to treasure and the tole it takes on a OLD body may not be worth the totals at years end. It may well also depend on location. Here in Fl ..... there are times a PI should be used ..... but it isnt during recent drop times. You just cover more water/beach with a disc VLF and most give good depth especially here in Fl.

    CudaMark.... that may be changing as they learn more about GB and salt balancing single freqs like on the MDT 8000 on the beach. If you are seriously considering a PI.... wait. The Fisher may be the next best thing.
    I have an equinox 800 now too

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    Mar 2011
    San Diego
    Equinox 800, Treasure Probe IV, E-Trac, 3 Excal 1000's, White's GM3 V-sat. White's TM808, VibraProbe, 15" NEL Attack, 5X10 Joey, Steath 920ix and 720i, TRX, etc....
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    Quote Originally Posted by dewcon4414 View Post
    But Ron...... most of the time ive seen you you are swinging the Xcal? I wont deny PIs are DEEP.... but the trash to treasure and the tole it takes on a OLD body may not be worth the totals at years end. It may well also depend on location. Here in Fl ..... there are times a PI should be used ..... but it isnt during recent drop times. You just cover more water/beach with a disc VLF and most give good depth especially here in Fl.

    CudaMark.... that may be changing as they learn more about GB and salt balancing single freqs like on the MDT 8000 on the beach. If you are seriously considering a PI.... wait. The Fisher may be the next best thing.
    Yeah, I've been holding my breath on the Fisher "Manta".....starting to turn blue however.......
    "jus cuz it's wrote down, don't make it so"

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    Mar 2011
    San Diego
    Equinox 800, Treasure Probe IV, E-Trac, 3 Excal 1000's, White's GM3 V-sat. White's TM808, VibraProbe, 15" NEL Attack, 5X10 Joey, Steath 920ix and 720i, TRX, etc....
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    6403 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grumpie View Post
    The detector will be for dbl duty and I'm buying it primarily bc I'll b spending 2wks in Hawaii. 10' waterproofing depth is plenty and a pi machine would work in the gold fields for me as well. Why the 800nox over the Mk does it really have a big edge on the MK
    The Multi Kruzer only operates on one frequency at a time. The Equinox is true multifrequency, which is what you want in salt water. The other single frequency machines and PI's that claim they work in salt water, are not totally honest about it. Sure, they work, but, you have to detune them to the point where you lose lots of depth, especially in mineralized ground (I.E. black sand) None of the PI's currently have true iron discrimination. Some have a pseudo-disc that can help a bit, but, not near as good as a multifrequency VLF. Most of the PI machines I've handled are not light or ergonomic in any sense of the word. Swing a few and you will see what I'm talking about. The ATX is HEAVY. If you're going to hunt out of the water as well as in the water, you're going to want one that doesn't kill your arm after an hour of hunting. The Nox is the lightest salt water machine out there at the moment. It makes hunting the sand a true pleasure. Hip mounting an Excal is pretty nice too. The CZ21 is a very good water machine also, but, it feels awkward on the beach to me.
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    Paul Martin

    Feb 2015
    Scarborough, England
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    Quote Originally Posted by cudamark View Post
    The Multi Kruzer only operates on one frequency at a time. The Equinox is true multifrequency, which is what you want in salt water. The other single frequency machines and PI's that claim they work in salt water, are not totally honest about it. Sure, they work, but, you have to detune them to the point where you lose lots of depth, especially in mineralized ground (I.E. black sand) None of the PI's currently have true iron discrimination. Some have a pseudo-disc that can help a bit, but, not near as good as a multifrequency VLF. Most of the PI machines I've handled are not light or ergonomic in any sense of the word. Swing a few and you will see what I'm talking about. The ATX is HEAVY. If you're going to hunt out of the water as well as in the water, you're going to want one that doesn't kill your arm after an hour of hunting. The Nox is the lightest salt water machine out there at the moment. It makes hunting the sand a true pleasure. Hip mounting an Excal is pretty nice too. The CZ21 is a very good water machine also, but, it feels awkward on the beach to me.
    I have to agree about the CZ21, it's a great machine but I found it too heavy, I now have an Equinox which I can swing pretty much all day and it's an awesome wet sand machine.

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    Scott

    Mar 2013
    huntington beach ca
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    I have my CZ 21 on an Andersen shaft and just got done with a four and a half hour hunt but I could have probably stayed out another two or three hours without fatigue. seemed like everything was about a foot deep today, walked away with a little bit less than $4 and change, a junk earring and a stainless steel ring. I think there are definitely better choices for land hunting, although I take my CZ 21 land hunting all the time and do quite well with it.

 

 

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