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  1. #1

    Apr 2015
    Saint Augustine, FL
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    Equinox vs CZ-21 test

    I was given a bag of around 75 pieces of jewelry to sort thru to test for a friend.

    I decided to first hit them with the metal detectors to see how they rang up.

    I removed any items that would stick to a magnet before testing.

    What I found was the following:

    MID TONE items on the CZ-21 rang up 6-20 on the equinox, 31 items
    HIGH TONE items on the CZ-21 came up 10, 13-16, and 19-30 on the equinox, 24 items

    When I acid tested:

    8 of the mid tone items were real, ranging from 6 - 20 on the equinox
    0 of the high tone items were real

    The CZ could not pick up thin chains at all, and the equinox could sometimes pick them up under 1".
    billb, OBN, Irishgoldhound and 1 others like this.
    Minelab Equinox 800,Fisher CZ-21

    ... waiting to see that elusive dowser or LRL on the beach with a bucket of gold rings ... has never happened!

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    OBN
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    Dec 2008
    Maryland Waters
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    That Nox is Hot on the small targets and chains. .. I just tested a CZ21 big coil against the Fisher AQ impulse Limited "8" inch coil, Nether could get a signal on a small gold chain. Links are just to small. Little coil on the "AQ" is very impressive as far as depth. All metal ...Eight inch coil on a buried Nickel in the wetsand..16 inch's with room to spare. Crazy deep for a small coil. CZ hit at 14 with the big coil and these were signals you would stop for...
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    Jun 2010
    Wherever there be treasure!
    An older blue Excal with connector, remote, Skullie headphones, and various coils. Got rid of the rest of my machines.
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    Every serious hunter should dedicate "a lot of time" on the beach just experimenting with multiple machines and coil sizes, it's crazy, but also a real eye opener. Offers "a lot" of insight into the various technologies used, their strengths and weaknesses. When I lived on the east coast of Florida I spent months doing this and I discovered a lot of revelations. There is no perfect machine, the Excal offering the most overall performance and flexibility once all of the mods have been added.

    PS: But when in disc mod it's certainly not a speed hunting machine.....lol
    Last edited by bigscoop; Nov 25, 2020 at 12:21 PM.
    "Treasure is wherever it can be found."

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    OBN
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    Dec 2008
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    I full agree BigScoop. I had the Fisher AQ in Late May, way before anyone else. I was able to get in countless hours just playing with it because of Convid. Air testing and at the beach on different buried targets, was time well spent. I was able to advance beyond beginner skills playing. Still so much to learn but having that jump start has scored me many gold I would have missed just picking it up and going hunting.
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    manaloneblog.wordpress.com

    Jun 2010
    Wherever there be treasure!
    An older blue Excal with connector, remote, Skullie headphones, and various coils. Got rid of the rest of my machines.
    14,028
    8826 times
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    Quote Originally Posted by OBN View Post
    I full agree BigScoop. I had the Fisher AQ in Late May, way before anyone else. I was able to get in countless hours just playing with it because of Convid. Air testing and at the beach on different buried targets, was time well spent. I was able to advance beyond beginner skills playing. Still so much to learn but having that jump start has scored me many gold I would have missed just picking it up and going hunting.
    So how do you like that AQ?
    "Treasure is wherever it can be found."

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    manaloneblog.wordpress.com

    Jun 2010
    Wherever there be treasure!
    An older blue Excal with connector, remote, Skullie headphones, and various coils. Got rid of the rest of my machines.
    14,028
    8826 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    I would say, because of all that experimenting and playing, that 50% of all the gold rings I've recovered in recent years were not returns that the average beach hunter is going to bother chasing, either very-very faint or broken or just breaks or chirps, etc. Prior to all of that playing around and experimenting on the beach I would have also passed these many "common" returns up. I can't tell you how many nickels I lost on that long stretch of beach while learning but it was money and time well spent...lol
    Jim in MA, OBN and billb like this.
    "Treasure is wherever it can be found."

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    OBN
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop View Post
    So how do you like that AQ?
    Just what I was looking for...Deep. For me it works at beaches that have been hammered by every "in the water machine" made (Over and Over) ... or places you can't buy a target.

    It's not the perfect machine but in combo with a good discriminating machine, then add a experienced hunter. Nothing stronger.
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  8. #8
    us
    Feb 2014
    Ohio and Florida
    CTX3030 w 11" and 17" DD coils, Minelab Excalibur II w 10" coil, Equinox 800 w 11" and 15" coils, Troy Shadow x2 w 7" coil, Pointers; Garrett Carrot, Pro Find 35, Vibra-Tector 730 w 4" coil
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    Great experiment and observations. Your data on the Equinox dovetails well with my data on the equinox 800 regarding gold - the vast majority of gold falls in the 7-21 range on the NOX and, further, there is a positive relation between gold item weight and NOX display number; the heavier the gold the higher the display number. Personally, I have found gold from 3 - 23 or so on the NOX and some others have found small gold in the 1 - 2 range. My general hunt strategy for hunting gold when time is limited (eg low tide) is to concentrate on the below 23 numbers (ignoring cents in the 17-21 range unless it sounds really good or different) on the NOX and ignore the mostly coins and some silver which register usually at higher numbers.

    2020
    Gold - 21
    Silver - 33
    flgliderpilot likes this.
    Now that Wife is happy with large diamond ring found last year, I search for happiness and find it every time I go metal detecting.

  9. #9

    Apr 2015
    Saint Augustine, FL
    CZ-21, Minelab Equinox, Garrett AT Pro
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    Quote Originally Posted by LawrencetheMDer View Post
    Great experiment and observations. Your data on the Equinox dovetails well with my data on the equinox 800 regarding gold - the vast majority of gold falls in the 7-21 range on the NOX and, further, there is a positive relation between gold item weight and NOX display number; the heavier the gold the higher the display number. Personally, I have found gold from 3 - 23 or so on the NOX and some others have found small gold in the 1 - 2 range. My general hunt strategy for hunting gold when time is limited (eg low tide) is to concentrate on the below 23 numbers (ignoring cents in the 17-21 range unless it sounds really good or different) on the NOX and ignore the mostly coins and some silver which register usually at higher numbers.

    2020
    Gold - 21
    Silver - 33
    I skip pennies, dig quarters and nickels. Anything lower than a penny or >= quarter gets dug.

    For the CZ, if you are coin hunting dig high tones. If you are looking for gold, dig only mid tones or very broken low tones in case they turn into a mid tone.
    Minelab Equinox 800,Fisher CZ-21

    ... waiting to see that elusive dowser or LRL on the beach with a bucket of gold rings ... has never happened!

 

 

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