Rebel - KGC said:SO! Let's "see" what YOU got, shall we... "unarguably conclusive" ("post" # 56)...
lastleg said:Group:
Are we still talking about the Beale party discovering a large amount of gold
in strata along with native silver? If we are I would like someone to tell me
where in Colorado or anywhere some 300 miles north of Santa Fe such deposits occur. Certainly not at Cherry Creek. The 1859 placers were of
minimum values and it was gold not silver. The large silver lodes discovered
in the late 1800's were confined to the Leadville cabonate mines and the
San Juan tellurides. The Aspen area contained silver and the famous Creede
deposits were devoid of significant gold values.
Zebulon Pike reported hearing of placer gold coming from what was later
called the South Park district which is west of Pikes Peak. The Teller county
boom was the last huge gold discovery in Colorado. No silver either.
Now we have Rebel speaking of an altogether separate source for the
'treasure' being coined gold from the Civil War era some 42 years after the
Santa Fe journey. Again, no silver/jewels as described in the 'job' pamplet.
Now here is where I have trouble believing a morsel of this yarn: IMHO
Why would a group of intelligent men in 1819-1821 bury a king's ransom
only to abandon it and persue something more interesting or of greater
value and never return to cash in their chips?
Another point I have not heard addressed: TJB says they exchanged a
hefty amount of silver for 'jewels' in old St Louis. Who in their right mind
would take sacks/barrels of unsmelted silver ore in exchange for precious
gems and cut diamonds?
You have to realize that every foot of mineralised land in the western US
has been explored by countless prospectors, none of which to my knowlege
found mixed gold and silver of such proportions.
Is that what you call 'out of the box' reasoning?
Rebel - KGC said:AH, SO true, Franklin... When others can not PROVE "their" points, they start attacking! Coffee? AND! bs... the BIBLE sezs (JESUS); DO NOT worry about the "mites" in the eyes of others, when YOU can't even see the "MOTE" in YOUR own...
Rebel - KGC said:AH, SO true, Franklin... When others can not PROVE "their" points, they start attacking! Coffee? AND! bs... the BIBLE sezs (JESUS); DO NOT worry about the "mites" in the eyes of others, when YOU can't even see the "MOTE" in YOUR own...
Rebel - KGC said:We FreeMasons may NOT know each other's names, at first... BUT! We know the "signs & passwords"; names can come LATER. THAT is why Robert MORRISS, didn't "know" others in the "party" or COMPANY.
Kentucky Kache said:Rebel - KGC said:We FreeMasons may NOT know each other's names, at first... BUT! We know the "signs & passwords"; names can come LATER. THAT is why Robert MORRISS, didn't "know" others in the "party" or COMPANY.
That doesn't explain WHY that many men would not be known in such a small community.