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    Trivia Question?

    We know who "Jackson, Clay, Coles, and Chief Justice Marshall" were, their individual histories can easily be found without too much effort. But who was, "Witcher" and what was his history?

    And an obvious question in regard to these men;
    As they pertain to the Beale story, is there a possible reason these names were presented in the pamphlet?
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    Re: Trivia Question?

    MAYBE... varoots.tripod.com/wit/ The guys were friends or something; MAYBE... FreeMasons!

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Well, there IS a Witcher Family Cemetery established in Amherst County, Va. in 1848; across the James River from BOTH Lynchburg, Va. and EASTERN Bedford County, Va.

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by tat2guy
    Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.
    Do you know what John Witcher's background was?
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop
    Do you know what John Witcher's background was?
    He was a very shady character
    Please note, the author is not responsible for any ideas, facts, etc stated in his comments and does not constitute any liability for his dribble.

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop
    Quote Originally Posted by tat2guy
    Because of the dates, I would say it was John Witcher, son of William Witcher. William died in 1808 in his 80's. John died in 1835 I think.
    Do you know what John Witcher's background was?
    I have no clue...yet! Im only 38, I wasnt around to hangout with those guys

    HH Jay

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    "It's only after we find it that archeologist know it exist!"

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Most likely this guy;

    "Captain John Witcher was one of the most prominent men in the valley; was one of the Justices of the Inferior Court of the Cherokee purchase; had commanded a company at Norfolk, VA in 1812 and a company of Paulding volunteers in 1835 during the war with the Creek Indians, and also a company of State troops in 1838 in the removal of the Cherokee Indians. A man of great courage and resentment; a truly good man to his friends, but thunder and lightning to his enemies. He owned considerable Negro property, land __ and was an old style Virginia gentleman, and a Democrat of the old Clark school."
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Or, THIS guy... Major John S. Witcher, WV 3rd Cavalry... a YANK! "Bit SHADY"... INDEED! www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvwayne/3wvcav.htm

  11. #11
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    "It's only after we find it that archeologist know it exist!"

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC
    Or, THIS guy... Major John S. Witcher, WV 3rd Cavalry... a YANK! "Bit SHADY"... INDEED! www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~wvwayne/3wvcav.htm
    A few years too late for my liking.
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    LOL! Going by ... "It was in the 2nd year of the CONFEDERATE WAR" (aka Civil War)... Coffee?

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Plenty of time for him to change his view on slavery . Or another John Witcher altogather.

    Till the next post Jay

    Happy New Year everybody

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    RIGHT BACK AT CHA! Don't drink TOO much BEE ALE (Beale), tho... AND! Read page 16 FIRST! www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page16.htm Give ya something to "chat" about...

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Hey Rebel,

    Many good reads on that link. I kinda like this one http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page7.htm


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    "It's only after we find it that archeologist know it exist!"

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC
    RIGHT BACK AT CHA! Don't drink TOO much BEE ALE (Beale), tho... AND! Read page 16 FIRST! www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page16.htm Give ya something to "chat" about...
    There was a time when I was convinced that if there was any truth to the Beale Papers then it had to have something to do with the Confederate Treasury. But keep in mind that since the time of that short article's publishing "a lot" of new information has surfaced that has made, at least in my mind, the Confederate Treasury and/or Freemasons a very unlikely candidate. Do I think either of them are still possibilities? Who knows, maybe. But based on the information that has been picked apart since the publishing of that short article, I no longer think either of these possibilities exist/existed.
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    MEANWHILE... across the BIG "Pond" (New Zealand, etc), it is ALREADY 2012! HAPPY NEW YEAR!

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    "It's only after we find it that archeologist know it exist!"

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC
    MEANWHILE... across the BIG "Pond" (New Zealand, etc), it is ALREADY 2012! HAPPY NEW YEAR!
    Just not right they should get a jump start on the rest of the world.
    "The beach is my new office."

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    HA! Wait until Dec. 21, 2012! (Singing...) "I see a BAD moon, a'rising..." by CCR. Coffee for ALL! What IS that ''ringing" in my ear?

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    Re: Trivia Question?

    Page 17-1... any '"follow up"? www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/Page17-1.htm


 

 
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