The Beale key... Found

[ECS]

Don't recall "the Disclaimer"...

DR Todd D Mateer , NSA, provided the overall disclaimer in that episode.

 

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[Rebel - KGC]

OK, will watch it again...

 

[Captain Jack Sparrow]

Who endorsed the key. No one talks about endorsement. The key was sealed in a false bottom of the iron box. Separated but together, lol genius. To risky to separate back then. Break the lock, break the box method. How else was he going to get in without a Key. The lock was removed to carefully, the box never broke. More Like the 1822 letter was the key to the key that he already had. . Preserve ten years from date of letter,1822-1832 key arrival,and,lock removal. The box. Withlock, no key to unlockit. Its crazy

what is the key you are talking about?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

GREAT question!

 

[Justintime]

what is the key you are talking about?

The key to the key, was the letter from St.Louis to Morriss, The whole paragraph is about the box left in his charge, why could the lost of the box be irreparable, because the DOI-Key was sealed inside"in this place"the box..We know from the other letters that was locked in the box, that the key will "Merely" state the contents of the vault with an exact location. The friend the key was with was the box keeper. Clearly the letter sent before the opening with enlightening instructions, would be enough, maybe Morriss wasnt smarter than he was trustworthy, all part of the quest plan agenda. Might wonder how I know, it's because I got the key from the box, and have been able to reverse everything into understanding, but still learning daily, and discover new information on the regular. Wish I could show the beautiful genius of the DOI-KEY... Much more than one can imagine 👽

 

[Rebel - KGC]

DO IT, THEN!

 

[ECS]

Justintime is the keymaster?

 

[franklin]

Justintime is the keymaster?

Only problem no one has proven there is a "lock" for the "key"

 

[Rebel - KGC]

HA! "Justin" has been "leading" ppl on... for YEARS! AND! He WAS with Josh... on the Telly. NO "conclusion", just CONFUSION!

 

[Rebel - KGC]

what is the key you are talking about?

LOL!

 

[Justintime]

Lol, pretty much calling me a lier, reb. I understand your frustrations and everyone else who has been "locked" on codes with no "key", if I wanted to miss lead, I would have a website, an book, ect. I was on a tv show,but, it's TV. I have no desire to prove something that can easily be seen. See, my book will start with the ending,if I survive...I wanted to make you guys aware that the key was real, justincase, it was lost again or something happened to me. 👾 Thanks Justintime.😎

 

[franklin]

You keep digging around those rocks and boulders something will happen to you. When the rain comes then the rocks start moving.

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Like a SNAKE!

 

[tad10]

You keep digging around those rocks and boulders something will happen to you. When the rain comes then the rocks start moving.

If your 'solution' (in quotes because I mean any form of a solution not just a decipherment) to the Beale Ciphers does not and/or can not account for the Masonic claims made by Paul Stewart in his book then you do not have a solution to the Beale Cipher.

This goes for Justintime, Franklin and Jean's decipherment as well as to ECS' 'it's just a dime novel'. None of the solutions nor ECS' constantly repeated refrain explain Stewart's findings. This is one reason why I dismiss ECS, his 'it's just a dime novel' claim is as unsupported, as weak, and as wrong as Jean's 'I've solved it and it's in Ye Olde Englishe' claim. Both fail the simple Stewart test.

I bring this up only because Franklin and Rebel-KGC are correct in their posts right here - Justintime should not be running around caves (a la the TV show) or scrambling over dangerous unstable ground searching for treasure based on what is an obviously incorrect decipherment.

Am I suggesting that I think Stewart has the right solution? No, he has only a partial solution. But that's more than enough for the litmus test given above.

 

[franklin]

Who is Paul Stewart?

 

[Rebel - KGC]

Paul is the author of SOLVING THE BEALE PAPERS (I have it), and has been on TN as "Enig" or something like that. Basically saying that it is a Cryptic Masonry thing; he is currently in China for DISNEY WORLD CHINA... THAT has gotta be INTERESTING!

 

[ECS]

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This goes for Justintime, Franklin and Jean's decipherment as well as to ECS' 'it's just a dime novel'. None of the solutions nor ECS' constantly repeated refrain explain Stewart's findings. This is one reason why I dismiss ECS, his 'it's just a dime novel' claim is as unsupported, as weak, and as wrong as Jean's 'I've solved it and it's in Ye Olde Englishe' claim. Both fail the simple Stewart test...

Yet, no one, not even the famous Paul Stewart test you cite, has provided any evidence that ANY of the events in the Beale Papers story narrative ever actually really happened outside of the Beale Papers story, especially if it is a cryptic freemason allegory.

When it all comes down to evidence or the lack thereof, the adventure/treasure dime novel with play along ciphers about and marketed to a very limited localized area stands strong against all other findings and claims, unless of course, the Beale treasure vault is located and the "treasure" recovered.

Whether one accepts or dismisses any of the proposed solutions or theories,until a recovery is made, they all remain helplessly wishful hopes of self fulfilling theories built around an "authentic" 50 cent dime novel pamphlet published in 1885.

 

[ECS]

the whole point of an allegory is that it is a fiction that is designed to inform and/or enlighten the reader. Stewart has made a solid case that is an allegory. This blows up your 'dime novel' theory..

You need to punch yourself in the head.

It is easy to dismiss with no evidence than to disprove without evidence.
Yes, Paul Stewart has made the case that the Beale Papers are a Masonic allegory, but pay attention , this allegory was presented in the form of a fictional dime novel.
NOTE: An allegory is a lesson presented in the form of a fictional story.
Sorry, but it is not me that has a lack of understanding.

 

[Treasure_Hunter]

Tad10, please post by our rules or lose the right and the ability to post, we do not allow insulting other members here as stated in my previous warning. This is your 2nd warning for attacking and insulting members, there will not be a third warning....

 

[Justintime]

You keep digging around those rocks and boulders something will happen to you. When the rain comes then the rocks start moving.

Yea, battled the rain before, it rained for a week straight, but, digging must continue,lol. Rain and rocks I'm good with, its the other stuff that come with the "perilous enterprise". Happy Holidays...🎅