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    Please give me a opinion on this website that says how to decode the beale codes

    Here is the website please leave a opinion (Smile)....Ken



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    sorry guess I cannot copy and paste ( http://www.angelfire.com/pro/bealeciphers/page17-3.htm ) Smile...Ken
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    I wouldn't put any faith in it. There have been plenty of claims that people have solved the cypher over the years. But no results have ever been shown.

    The website you posted, in particular, is just garbage. Why? Because the one page that was deciphered was a simple substitution cypher that used the Declaration of Independence. There was no mathematical algorithm needed.

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    (SMIRKING...) Agree with "allen" above; TWO "issues" here... "solving" the Cipher(s), and FINDING the "treasure". Neighbors in THAT area of Bedford County, Va. NEVER saw nor heard ANYTHING "going on" day or night. NOW! The "cipher(s)"... LOL! The article is Fake! FAKE! FAKE! (WINK)
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    I guess I will never understand human nature and why they tell BIG lies,what do they gain? I would be ashamed to say I found something if I havent, Why the B.S? Every one that has it solved has a reason to not say,but yet they get on here and blow their horns,some sick people in this world(SMILE).....Ken

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    (CHEESY SMILE) HA! The old saying is... "If it sounds too good to be true... it's probably ISN'T!" (WINK) NOT including the "BP"; just a "cover-story". (DOUBLE WINK & SMILE)
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    (SMIRKING... raining out) SO! As a "cover-story", it (Beale Papers) is entertaining. Charles W. Button, who owned the newspaper (News Virginian), and was publisher, RETIRED in 1885. Sold HIS "interest" in NV 3 years, later; bet HE was "in" on it. (WINK)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kenjmor2006 View Post
    Here is the website please leave a opinion (Smile)....Ken



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    No very interesting.
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    Foolish to seek fortune when real treasure hiding under nose.

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    I was there the next day, talked to the landowners. No one had dug on their property. No one had dug under a boulder in the church yard as they claimed. Fake news.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    I was there the next day, talked to the landowners. No one had dug on their property. No one had dug under a boulder in the church yard as they claimed. Fake news.
    Lots of Churches in that area. Lots of boulders too. Maybe someone just made a mistake.
    Foolish to seek fortune when real treasure hiding under nose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpoe View Post
    Lots of Churches in that area. Lots of boulders too. Maybe someone just made a mistake.
    Not in this area. You have to go up a curvy country gravel road to get to the top of Taylor's Mtn. The Church is on your right sitting on a knoll with the large boulder or stone sitting on the right side of the church. The landowner up the road a hundred yards or so, Wallac Orange. He said no one dug at the church with heavy equipment and no one has dug on his property either. Case was closed the morning after the story came out in Treasure Magazine. I knew the author of that story and he lived in Colorado. Just a writer use to run contest for the best decipherment of the Beale Codes. He chose this story and gave them a five dollar gold coin.
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    You know there is some validity to this method.

    The author describes the DOI as a lettered key to be laid out over a graphed layout....this occupies numerous pieces of graph paper and would fill a small desk very quickly......

    The layout of the grid is then highlighted in certain areas, that are then used to find key points on the whole layout.

    The grid layout with the points highlighted serves as a map.....whereas each point on the layout serves as a location of a single cache.

    The numbering system was developed based on the symmetry and coincidence that they saw in the graphed versions.....

    Which also has later in the article been shown to be a sort of coincidence when these types of layouts are arranged.

    This is the manner in which these occurrences are sometimes flattened to eliminate any recognition of their use as he showed in the computer analysis.

    This WAS carefully designed, and the author states conclusions that are geared at using the numerical sequences of the Beale to arrange for a placement of certain marks on the grid which form a shape with only of a few locations......he then shows how the calculations can be added or subtracted to form additional locations on the layout.

    There are maps showing the location of 30 shares and a 31st location as well for the vault of the finder.......

    But to be honest....there are not very many signs that there are the matching amounts of caches for each....rather that the numbers form a mapping layout that makes a hidden shape.......

    This is the miracle part.......

    It forms the letters C.S.A. across it in writing ..... in fact it shows 43 locations of points that are listed in different manners through the addition and subtraction of certain numbers contained in the Beale......whereas the Beale only spoke of one location containing 31 caches.

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    So there is something that does not fit.......what this is, can only be described as a compounding system used to pass along not just one stash, but the snowball of the movement to another, and there another, and there another as you locate the corresponding systems that match....

    This is not a template for conversion of the numerical ciphertext of the B1 and B3, as they could not formulate anything of a translation of the numbers, but merely finding a similarity that formed a missing part of the treasure map.....

    The fact it was part of the original affair that landed them in the position of burying a ton of their leftover gold for their own means.

    This means that there is still a treasure in the Beale to be found in discovery of the numerical ciphers, AND a trail leading through the Southern States to make additional discoveries.

    Thank You for putting this up here Kenjmoor2006.......
    But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.

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    Here is another example of the same type of layout.....except that these are Covfefe related.....

    This is the Kryptos Fee Schedule as released by Jim Sanborn.....the same F and Fee pattern is recognized.....laying a pattern to be recognized

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    But he who knows forms, is able to grasp the unity of nature beneath the surface of materials which are very unlike. Thus is he able to identify and bring about things that have never been done before, things of the kind which neither the vicissitudes of nature, nor hard experimenting, nor pure accident could ever have actualized, nor even human thought dreamed of. And thus from the discovery of the forms flows true speculation and unrestricted operation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eldo View Post
    .... these are Covfefe related...
    In the words of Union General Ulysses Simpson Grant: "I'll drink to that"!

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    I'll have a double if you please.
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