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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Still one needs to produce the reason why Ward would spend his money to publish the Beale Papers.
    ...or did Max Guggenheimer front the publishing costs?
    If Charles Button published the Job Print Pamphlet then there would be very little cost. If Sherman was the author and JBW agent for the author. The printing press ran by Button was in the same building as the newspaper then ran by Sherman. So it could have been a three way agreement among them to share in profits.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    Nah... "fronted" by the Inner Committee with $$$$$$$$$$$ from "BT"/CSA TREASURY - WRV, lawyers like "Ole Jube", etc. & OTHERS with "vested interest"; PV's last book, a NOVEL (FACTION... Fiction with FACTS) was sorta like the ''Job Print"... tells the story; CONFEDERATE TREASURE COVERUP: Duty, Honor, & Deceit... MORE on that later.
    Right now, I am doing R & I on the ROSTER (names) from Comp. G of the 11th Regiment Virginia Infantry (CSA)... HOME GUARD of Lynchburg, Va.; I know that "CSA" Max was one, having been previously WIA. The HOME GUARD woulda helped with the "BT"/CSAT-WRV...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    Right now, I am doing R & I on the ROSTER (names) on Comp. G of the 11th Regiment Virginia Infantry (CSA)... HOME GUARD of Lynchburg, Va.; I know that "CSA" Max was one, having been previously WIA. The HOME GUARD woulda helped with the "BT"/CSAT-WRV...
    James Beverly Ward was most likely his partner in the Home Guard as a Quartermaster when he died they have listed in the Druguid Funeral Records as being "Major" strange because he was turned down to be a soldier because of a broken leg. The Quartermaster's is most likely and he would have to make errands in to Richmond at times also.
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    I thought "JB" Ward was a CAPTAIN (CSA); you may well be correct.
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    Most Quartermasters of an area or town had the rank of Major at least all that I have seen. Major Sutherlin in Danville was a Quartermaster.
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    Going back to the "OP"; EF Beale (US Navy) retired in 1851 or so. During the Confederate War, he was a VERY wealthy MULTI-MILLONAIRE private citizen with a HUGE ranch, (California) that was once a US Army Fort. Documents indicate that EF Beale came back east in 1848 or so with the FIRST piece of GOLD (to Philly). His story PROBABLY was one of the TRUE, AUTHENTIC stories that "influenced" the Beale PAPERS pamphlet (1885).
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    That is true, and E F Beale's name was in all the newspapers of the day, and many remember the name Beale connected to gold.
    E F Beale was also involved with Jefferson Davis's US ARMY CAMEL CORP, but that is another story.
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    He ALSO "created' the BEALE WAGON ROAD... now known as Rt. 66!
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop View Post
    Maybe. But still nothing solid to launch claim of remedy in either direction. That's all I've been saying. It's one thing to present a theory, or thoughts, but it quite another to launch claims of remedy and solutions as if they were fact to something that is still a complete unknown...
    That is what you done with these never ending unconnected to Ward, the "unknown author" or the Beale story in the job pamphlet.
    Reread the posts starting from # 1475, for the Risqué extended family bloodline that influenced the fictional Beale story.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    Going back to the "OP"; EF Beale (US Navy) retired in 1851 or so. During the Confederate War, he was a VERY wealthy MULTI-MILLONAIRE private citizen with a HUGE ranch, (California) that was once a US Army Fort. Documents indicate that EF Beale came back east in 1848 or so with the FIRST piece of GOLD (to Philly). His story PROBABLY was one of the TRUE, AUTHENTIC stories that "influenced" the Beale PAPERS pamphlet (1885).
    ...and that combined with events in that Risqué extended bloodline combined with the Otey family and one can determine the various sources utilized for the 1885 Beale Papers.
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    True; info from E. F. Beale AND John P. Risque PROBABLY contributed GREATLY to the "Job Print", 1885.
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    Yes, considering that Ward's great uncle John Pickrell Risqué was killed by Indians while inspecting Arizona gold and silver mines in 1884.
    Rememer the mention of Indian massacre rumors in the Beale Papers.
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    YEP! MORE, after supper; 5:54 pm, here. BBL.
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    Back... "Google" John Pickrell Risque [34969] ; his home was 102 West Kelly in Silver City, NM; now the HISTORIC John P. Risque House is Common Ground Gallery (Art Shows, etc.)...
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    SO! NOW, we can "see" the "outside" sources of PAPERS for the Beale PAPERS Pamphlet of 1885...
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