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I think the evidence in the story itself tells us that there is something noticeably wrong with the presented key and ciphers. Either they were simply constructed to be an intricate part of a fiction tale, or, they have been greatly altered to prevent solution through the use of a single key, as the story suggest.



In the first case this would mean that the is no treasure and the story has been fabricated purely for entertainment purposes, which is likely. However, the second scenario might suggest that the story could be true but that the ciphers were never meant to be decoded by the general public.


With all of this in mind let us step back and consider that the story may have been written and published, not for the general public, but with the hope of catching the attention of someone who was completely unknown to the author. If this is a possibility then the obvious question here is; why was this individual so important that our unknown author would go through such a trial in an effort to contact him? At first it seems highly unlikely that such a reason might exist but perhaps, given the right circumstances, such a situation did exist. But if this most unusual situation did exist then it might also explain all of the dependencies in the author's tale.


So, what if the situation required that you publish all of the details without risk of someone unconcerned being able to decode the ciphers? Well, you might print the entire story so your targeted individual would recognize those details and make the required “connexions”, the only required deception in the process being the altering of the ciphers so that they couldn't be decoded even with the correct key. Once this was done you would be free to circulate the publication without fear of possible solution.


The second requirement in your tale would be to make clear to the right individual that you, and only you, possess the solutions to all of the real ciphers, and in doing so you might make the obscure statement that you, “had no difficulty in mastering the others.” You might also go on to explain that this success, by itself, still presented the “veriest illusion.” In doing this you are, in essence, telling the targeted individual that you have everything else solved less that one vital piece of missing unintelligible paper which you hope they still possess. In fact, you're even going to go as far as to declare in your tale that it is your hope that the publishing of the story will draw someone's attention to that very item.


In essence you have presented the general public with an entertaining tale that harbors no solution, yet you have also still managed to place all of the real details in front of that important individual who is completely unknown to you, if in fact, such a piece of paper and an individual of appropriate knowledge still survives in the region? In the end you have a single publication with two distinctly different designs, a publication that is both entertainment and bait.


If I really wanted to protect something with three ciphers then only a fool would give all three of those ciphers to the same man for a period of ten years. In ten years time it would be very possible that the holder of those ciphers could “accidentally” discover the key to those ciphers, just as our unknown author claims he had. So in order to protect against this then I would have to introduce a device that safeguards against this happening. So how might I do that?


In his letter Beale tells Morriss that if required the key will be delivered to him and we assume this to mean by mail but would we really risk this? Not very likely that we would, especially in the early 1800's when sending anything by mail was so uncertain. However, we might use a trusted courier, a courier who not only carries the required key but also that other required piece of intelligible paper that is also vital in arriving at an accurate solution. By adding this extra device we have introduced a means that totally safeguards against accidental solution as neither individual could arrive at that total solution without the presence of the other. Now my ciphers are truly protected, especially cipher number 1, that most critical of them all.


So let us step back and just for giggles let us assume for a moment that this could be the situation our unknown author found himself in so many years ago. In this scenario he would be sitting on three completed ciphers without total solution, the thought of all that wealth so close at hand and yet so far away. In the 1880's it would be doubtful that many of the original participants in the Beale party were still alive and yet if we really had decoded C3 then it is possible that our unknown author was then able to narrow down the general region in which these men and their families lived. What a better place to attempt to rattle the bushes in his search for that vital piece of missing paper.


“[FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times]It would be difficult to portray the delight he experienced when accident revealed to him the explanation of the paper marked "2." Unmeaning, as this had hitherto been, it was now fully explained, [/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times]and no difficulty was apprehended in mastering the others;[/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times] but this accident, affording so much pleasure at the time, was a most unfortunate one for him, as it induced him to neglect family, friends, and all legitimate pursuits for what has proved, so far, [/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times]the veriest illusion.” [/FONT]



[FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times] “it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing[/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times] seems quite natural; [/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times]but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative,[/FONT][FONT=Book Antiqua, Times New Roman, Times] may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.” [/FONT]


Two things strike me in the above quotes from the author's story; A) why is he confessing that he had no difficulty in mastering the others, and what others is he referring to? The only others that remained after C2 would be C1 & C3. And B), how does he know that an unintelligible missing piece of paper is still required? Unintelligible simply means that by itself the missing paper would hold no understandable meaning, so very clearly he is not referencing an understandable text of any kind.


So obviously this alleged missing paper isn't an intelligible writing of any kind and yet this is exactly what our unknown author is directing his readers to locate. Our unknown author already claims to have all three ciphers and he also claims that by accident he was also able to discover the key. So if he already has the original ciphers and their solutions, and the key, then what else might he still be lacking, and how might he go about finding it if he doesn't know who might still possibly possess it? Well, if he was really desperate and he knew where it is likely to exist perhaps he might publish a story in search of that vital missing paper. Wouldn't be the first time that publications were used in such a way.


The Dupers. Most people read these various duper examples that I've posted and they tend to associate them with the discrediting of the tale, their obvious existence lending to the notion that the entire tale was a simple fabrication bearing no measure of truth. But this isn't the only possibility that these dupers suggest. They also suggest that the possibility that the publication was written with two distinctly different designs, one for the general public and another for a very specific targeted audience.


In other words, if the story holds any measure of truth then our unknown author had to know more then he expressed and he also had to know that this mysterious unintelligible paper had really existed. So, why did the author suggest that there was a missing unintelligible paper? Did he do it to mislead his readers and to send them on an entertaining fruitless hunt, or, did he do it because he knew it really existed? Here again, it becomes a question of fact or fiction? This you'll have to weigh for yourself.
 

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I think the evidence in the story itself tells us that there is something noticeably wrong with the presented key and ciphers. Either they were simply constructed to be an intricate part of a fiction tale, or, they have been greatly altered to prevent solution through the use of a single key, as the story suggest.



In the first case this would mean that the is no treasure and the story has been fabricated purely for entertainment purposes, which is likely. However, the second scenario might suggest that the story could be true but that the ciphers were never meant to be decoded by the general public.


With all of this in mind let us step back and consider that the story may have been written and published, not for the general public, but with the hope of catching the attention of someone who was completely unknown to the author. If this is a possibility then the obvious question here is; why was this individual so important that our unknown author would go through such a trial in an effort to contact him? At first it seems highly unlikely that such a reason might exist but perhaps, given the right circumstances, such a situation did exist. But if this most unusual situation did exist then it might also explain all of the dependencies in the author's tale.


So, what if the situation required that you publish all of the details without risk of someone unconcerned being able to decode the ciphers? Well, you might print the entire story so your targeted individual would recognize those details and make the required “connexions”, the only required deception in the process being the altering of the ciphers so that they couldn't be decoded even with the correct key. Once this was done you would be free to circulate the publication without fear of possible solution.


The second requirement in your tale would be to make clear to the right individual that you, and only you, possess the solutions to all of the real ciphers, and in doing so you might make the obscure statement that you, “had no difficulty in mastering the others.” You might also go on to explain that this success, by itself, still presented the “veriest illusion.” In doing this you are, in essence, telling the targeted individual that you have everything else solved less that one vital piece of missing unintelligible paper which you hope they still possess. In fact, you're even going to go as far as to declare in your tale that it is your hope that the publishing of the story will draw someone's attention to that very item.


In essence you have presented the general public with an entertaining tale that harbors no solution, yet you have also still managed to place all of the real details in front of that important individual who is completely unknown to you, if in fact, such a piece of paper and an individual of appropriate knowledge still survives in the region? In the end you have a single publication with two distinctly different designs, a publication that is both entertainment and bait.


If I really wanted to protect something with three ciphers then only a fool would give all three of those ciphers to the same man for a period of ten years. In ten years time it would be very possible that the holder of those ciphers could “accidentally” discover the key to those ciphers, just as our unknown author claims he had. So in order to protect against this then I would have to introduce a device that safeguards against this happening. So how might I do that?


In his letter Beale tells Morriss that if required the key will be delivered to him and we assume this to mean by mail but would we really risk this? Not very likely that we would, especially in the early 1800's when sending anything by mail was so uncertain. However, we might use a trusted courier, a courier who not only carries the required key but also that other required piece of intelligible paper that is also vital in arriving at an accurate solution. By adding this extra device we have introduced a means that totally safeguards against accidental solution as neither individual could arrive at that total solution without the presence of the other. Now my ciphers are truly protected, especially cipher number 1, that most critical of them all.


So let us step back and just for giggles let us assume for a moment that this could be the situation our unknown author found himself in so many years ago. In this scenario he would be sitting on three completed ciphers without total solution, the thought of all that wealth so close at hand and yet so far away. In the 1880's it would be doubtful that many of the original participants in the Beale party were still alive and yet if we really had decoded C3 then it is possible that our unknown author was then able to narrow down the general region in which these men and their families lived. What a better place to attempt to rattle the bushes in his search for that vital piece of missing paper.


“It would be difficult to portray the delight he experienced when accident revealed to him the explanation of the paper marked "2." Unmeaning, as this had hitherto been, it was now fully explained, and no difficulty was apprehended in mastering the others; but this accident, affording so much pleasure at the time, was a most unfortunate one for him, as it induced him to neglect family, friends, and all legitimate pursuits for what has proved, so far, the veriest illusion.”



“it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing seems quite natural; but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative, may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.”


Two things strike me in the above quotes from the author's story; A) why is he confessing that he had no difficulty in mastering the others, and what others is he referring to? The only others that remained after C2 would be C1 & C3. And B), how does he know that an unintelligible missing piece of paper is still required? Unintelligible simply means that by itself the missing paper would hold no understandable meaning, so very clearly he is not referencing an understandable text of any kind.


So obviously this alleged missing paper isn't an intelligible writing of any kind and yet this is exactly what our unknown author is directing his readers to locate. Our unknown author already claims to have all three ciphers and he also claims that by accident he was also able to discover the key. So if he already has the original ciphers and their solutions, and the key, then what else might he still be lacking, and how might he go about finding it if he doesn't know who might still possibly possess it? Well, if he was really desperate and he knew where it is likely to exist perhaps he might publish a story in search of that vital missing paper. Wouldn't be the first time that publications were used in such a way.


The Dupers. Most people read these various duper examples that I've posted and they tend to associate them with the discrediting of the tale, their obvious existence lending to the notion that the entire tale was a simple fabrication bearing no measure of truth. But this isn't the only possibility that these dupers suggest. They also suggest that the possibility that the publication was written with two distinctly different designs, one for the general public and another for a very specific targeted audience.


In other words, if the story holds any measure of truth then our unknown author had to know more then he expressed and he also had to know that this mysterious unintelligible paper had really existed. So, why did the author suggest that there was a missing unintelligible paper? Did he do it to mislead his readers and to send them on an entertaining fruitless hunt, or, did he do it because he knew it really existed? Here again, it becomes a question of fact or fiction? This you'll have to weigh for yourself.

Again, WELL THOUGHT out; IMHO, "Ciphers" are USELESS... BUT! What the ppl are drawn to... HH! Good Luck!
 

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That was well presented, BigScoop, but with everything outside of the actual job pamphlet, speculation concerning the intent of the "unknown" author.
 

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That was well presented, BigScoop, but with everything outside of the actual job pamphlet, speculation concerning the intent of the "unknown" author.

Agreed, as with all possibilities in connection to the Beale story it does require its own amount of speculation. But what is vastly different in this case is that it offers a reasonable alternative for the many discrepancies in the tale that would otherwise conclude the story to be just another dime novel, or fictional tale. In the past, the manner in which the story is written has always lead us to cite these various discrepancies as being errors, however, it is this same manner in which the story is written that also suggest that the author was fully aware of the discrepancies he was creating. Question is, did he do this simply to add more intrigue to his fictional tale or did he do with a different design in mind?
 

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... Question is, did he do this simply to add more intrigue to his fictional tale or did he do with a different design in mind?
When the realization that NO collaboration outside of the Beale Papers can be found, the answer should become obvious.
"Eliminate all other factors, and the one that remains must be the truth"- Sherlock Holmes/ Arthur Conan Doyle.
 

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When the realization that NO collaboration outside of the Beale Papers can be found, the answer should become obvious.
"Eliminate all other factors, and the one that remains must be the truth"- Sherlock Holmes/ Arthur Conan Doyle.

Again, I agree that the total lack of collaboration stands as pretty strong evidence that the story holds no truth. But this is also the very last of reasonable alternative explanations that still exist and so I'll entertain the notion until it too has been completely exhausted.
 

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Again, I agree that the total lack of collaboration stands as pretty strong evidence that the story holds no truth. But this is also the very last of reasonable alternative explanations that still exist and so I'll entertain the notion until it too has been completely exhausted.

Well, if Beale PAPERS (pamphlet) is viewed as a "Cover Story" for CSA "Assets"... it COULD BE a MISDIRECT "technique" to 1) "Entertain" the Lynchburg, Va. readership, AND... 2) to "shake" the TREE (Family Tree, as in "papers in RAGLAND Family possession") or "shake the bushes of CSA REBELS, who NEVER surrendered, "into action"; Gen. Jubal Early was one, a BIG Attorney working and living in Lynchburg, Va. "at the time"... MORE later.
 

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That was well presented, BigScoop, but with everything outside of the actual job pamphlet, speculation concerning the intent of the "unknown" author.

AGREE! I am "tired" of "unknown author" this, "unknown author" that... let's "speculate" MORE on the "unknown author". So FAR, it is John W. Sherman, James Beverly Ward, and my "FAVE", Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA)... any more...? MAYBE provide FACTS as "proof". Let's start SOMEWHERE! Beale PAPERS... ONLY!
 

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I think the evidence in the story itself tells us that there is something noticeably wrong with the presented key and ciphers. Either they were simply constructed to be an intricate part of a fiction tale, or, they have been greatly altered to prevent solution through the use of a single key, as the story suggest.



In the first case this would mean that the is no treasure and the story has been fabricated purely for entertainment purposes, which is likely. However, the second scenario might suggest that the story could be true but that the ciphers were never meant to be decoded by the general public.


With all of this in mind let us step back and consider that the story may have been written and published, not for the general public, but with the hope of catching the attention of someone who was completely unknown to the author. If this is a possibility then the obvious question here is; why was this individual so important that our unknown author would go through such a trial in an effort to contact him? At first it seems highly unlikely that such a reason might exist but perhaps, given the right circumstances, such a situation did exist. But if this most unusual situation did exist then it might also explain all of the dependencies in the author's tale.


So, what if the situation required that you publish all of the details without risk of someone unconcerned being able to decode the ciphers? Well, you might print the entire story so your targeted individual would recognize those details and make the required “connexions”, the only required deception in the process being the altering of the ciphers so that they couldn't be decoded even with the correct key. Once this was done you would be free to circulate the publication without fear of possible solution.


The second requirement in your tale would be to make clear to the right individual that you, and only you, possess the solutions to all of the real ciphers, and in doing so you might make the obscure statement that you, “had no difficulty in mastering the others.” You might also go on to explain that this success, by itself, still presented the “veriest illusion.” In doing this you are, in essence, telling the targeted individual that you have everything else solved less that one vital piece of missing unintelligible paper which you hope they still possess. In fact, you're even going to go as far as to declare in your tale that it is your hope that the publishing of the story will draw someone's attention to that very item.


In essence you have presented the general public with an entertaining tale that harbors no solution, yet you have also still managed to place all of the real details in front of that important individual who is completely unknown to you, if in fact, such a piece of paper and an individual of appropriate knowledge still survives in the region? In the end you have a single publication with two distinctly different designs, a publication that is both entertainment and bait.


If I really wanted to protect something with three ciphers then only a fool would give all three of those ciphers to the same man for a period of ten years. In ten years time it would be very possible that the holder of those ciphers could “accidentally” discover the key to those ciphers, just as our unknown author claims he had. So in order to protect against this then I would have to introduce a device that safeguards against this happening. So how might I do that?


In his letter Beale tells Morriss that if required the key will be delivered to him and we assume this to mean by mail but would we really risk this? Not very likely that we would, especially in the early 1800's when sending anything by mail was so uncertain. However, we might use a trusted courier, a courier who not only carries the required key but also that other required piece of intelligible paper that is also vital in arriving at an accurate solution. By adding this extra device we have introduced a means that totally safeguards against accidental solution as neither individual could arrive at that total solution without the presence of the other. Now my ciphers are truly protected, especially cipher number 1, that most critical of them all.


So let us step back and just for giggles let us assume for a moment that this could be the situation our unknown author found himself in so many years ago. In this scenario he would be sitting on three completed ciphers without total solution, the thought of all that wealth so close at hand and yet so far away. In the 1880's it would be doubtful that many of the original participants in the Beale party were still alive and yet if we really had decoded C3 then it is possible that our unknown author was then able to narrow down the general region in which these men and their families lived. What a better place to attempt to rattle the bushes in his search for that vital piece of missing paper.


“It would be difficult to portray the delight he experienced when accident revealed to him the explanation of the paper marked "2." Unmeaning, as this had hitherto been, it was now fully explained, and no difficulty was apprehended in mastering the others; but this accident, affording so much pleasure at the time, was a most unfortunate one for him, as it induced him to neglect family, friends, and all legitimate pursuits for what has proved, so far, the veriest illusion.”



“it may possibly remain in the hands of some relative or friend of Beale's, or some other person engaged in the enterprise with him. That they would attach no importance to a seemingly unintelligible writing seems quite natural; but their attention being called to them by the publication of this narrative, may result in eventually bringing to light the missing paper.”


Two things strike me in the above quotes from the author's story; A) why is he confessing that he had no difficulty in mastering the others, and what others is he referring to? The only others that remained after C2 would be C1 & C3. And B), how does he know that an unintelligible missing piece of paper is still required? Unintelligible simply means that by itself the missing paper would hold no understandable meaning, so very clearly he is not referencing an understandable text of any kind.


So obviously this alleged missing paper isn't an intelligible writing of any kind and yet this is exactly what our unknown author is directing his readers to locate. Our unknown author already claims to have all three ciphers and he also claims that by accident he was also able to discover the key. So if he already has the original ciphers and their solutions, and the key, then what else might he still be lacking, and how might he go about finding it if he doesn't know who might still possibly possess it? Well, if he was really desperate and he knew where it is likely to exist perhaps he might publish a story in search of that vital missing paper. Wouldn't be the first time that publications were used in such a way.


The Dupers. Most people read these various duper examples that I've posted and they tend to associate them with the discrediting of the tale, their obvious existence lending to the notion that the entire tale was a simple fabrication bearing no measure of truth. But this isn't the only possibility that these dupers suggest. They also suggest that the possibility that the publication was written with two distinctly different designs, one for the general public and another for a very specific targeted audience.


In other words, if the story holds any measure of truth then our unknown author had to know more then he expressed and he also had to know that this mysterious unintelligible paper had really existed. So, why did the author suggest that there was a missing unintelligible paper? Did he do it to mislead his readers and to send them on an entertaining fruitless hunt, or, did he do it because he knew it really existed? Here again, it becomes a question of fact or fiction? This you'll have to weigh for yourself.

MY "focus" is on his words "unintelligible WRITINGS"; I have also read "FIGURES"... YET! We see NUMBERS! EH...?
 

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Rebel KGC, Since you are close by to where the Job Print Pamphlet was published and where it was distributed maybe you could locate a few relatives or descendents and just maybe letters or a diary of the time period either approving or disappgoving the Beale Papers. There has got to be someone in Lynchburg or surrounding area that has a letter or diary about the Beale Papers when they came to light. Someone should have sent a letter to the editor or published something talking about the Beale Papers. When I get time I am going to ask door to door if I have to. One good place to start is PV's wife to see if she still has the copy of James Beverly Ward's diary.

PV never had a copy of Beale PAPERS pamphlet, an old man let PV copy it in the old man's home; Mrs. V is NO longer in Bedford... she is with their son (Ben) in Michigan. Looking for papers in RAGLAND family possession... NOT found YET! We can go to Jones Memorial Library... not much there; DO NOT go "door-to-door", TOO dangerous... these ppl pack "heat"!
 

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AGREE! I am "tired" of "unknown author" this, "unknown author" that... let's "speculate" MORE on the "unknown author". So FAR, it is John W. Sherman, James Beverly Ward, and my "FAVE", Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA)... any more...? MAYBE provide FACTS as "proof". Let's start SOMEWHERE! Beale PAPERS... ONLY!

"Speculation" brings about a curious human trait. In light of the complete lack of any supporting evidence it takes quite a bit of speculation just to assume that the story is true, yet humans still believe.

And speaking of speculation, Ward was just the copyright holder, Sherman simply worked at the job & print and had a history of writing, and Hutter - he is never mentioned in the tale or directly connected to it in any way whatsoever, so it is only by speculation that any of these men are assumed to have been the author.

So at this point we can only attempt to discover all we can about the "unknown" author and his writing style, and possible alternate purpose. So right from the very start everything about this tale is pure speculation.

However, what we know about about the flaws and discrepancies in the tale are fact. :thumbsup:
 

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YOU like John W. Sherman as "author"... wanna know MORE from YOU on this! I will "do" Maj. F. C. Hutter, later.
 

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YOU like John W. Sherman as "author"... wanna know MORE from YOU on this! I will "do" Maj. F. C. Hutter, later.
Let us not forget Max Guggenheimer, the Lynchberg merchant, who is mentioned in the Beale Papers, and was a contemporary of Ward, Sherman, and Hutter.
 

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YOU like John W. Sherman as "author"... wanna know MORE from YOU on this! I will "do" Maj. F. C. Hutter, later.

For a long time I felt Sherman was the most likely candidate but I've still not ruled out someone of a legal background, for various reasons. We'll probably never know who the author was but at least we understand a little bit about him. Probably the best we'll ever be able to do.
 

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For a long time I felt Sherman was the most likely candidate but I've still not ruled out someone of a legal background, for various reasons. We'll probably never know who the author was but at least we understand a little bit about him. Probably the best we'll ever be able to do.

OK, will do Maj. F. C. Hutter, CSA, TOMORROW; BTW, John W. Sherman isn't mentioned in the Beale PAPERS pamphlet, either...
 

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We are in for an INTERESTING "ride"... with FACTS, for the "2nd Year of the Confederate War" theory, AND! Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA) as the unknown author of the Beale PAPERS. NOT to "force" ANYONE to believe as I do... just FACTS of HISTORY, Putting together "bits & pieces" of info, that MAY "tie together" or as pieces of a BIG puzzle COMPLETE the BIG PUZZLE/mystery known as the Beale PAPERS pamphlet. FACT: CONFEDERATE WAR (aka Civil War; CIVIL...? LOL!) - 1861-1865. FACTS: Maj. Ferdinand C. Hutter (CSA) was CSA PAYMASTER; POST-CW, F.C.H. worked for Capt. Rives of the city of Lynchburg, Va. Internal Revenue Department/Service; F. C. Hutter died of a Heart Attack in 1885. NOW! IF... he WAS the author, & James B. Ward (cousin), was the "Agent for the Author"... it was "ALL in the Family";(they were grandsons of James Beverly Risque). "Carrying on"; F.C. Hutter was "called to Richmond", (Va.) as RM was disclosing the "GRAVE SECRET" (1862/63)... RM died in 1863. What happened in 1863 for the REBELS ...? Stonewall Jackson was shot & later died... arm buried at the area of the battlefield, and "remains" conveyed by train to Lynchburg, Va. where it was put on The Marshall (packet boat)) & went UP-River to VMI/Lexington, Va. (FACT). Packet Boats are BIG; was CSA "assets" ALSO included...? For VMI...? ONLY Maj. F. C. Hutter would have known... SECRET STUFF! FACT: April, 1865... CW was OVER... BUT! BEFORE Richmond "fell", "Richmond Stores" were moved to Lynchburg, Va. & points WEST!
Lynchburg, Va. was STATE CAPITAL of VIRGINIA, April 6-10, 1865 (FACT). MANY high-ranking REBELS (CSA) were living in or near Lynchburg, Va. post-CW... (FACT); even Frank James as James Warren in 1882. MORE, later!
 

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OK, will do Maj. F. C. Hutter, CSA, TOMORROW; BTW, John W. Sherman isn't mentioned in the Beale PAPERS pamphlet, either...

Will get to "Legal background" shortly; (hint) Maj. Edward Sixtus Hutter (CSA), (VMI) & Vattel's LAW OF NATIONS... given to his son-in-law, ATTORNEY H. M. Gibbs.
 

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I have been unable to find where Attoreny H.M. Gibbs office was located or any of his descendants. I wonder if that book was in English or French?

I ALSO wondered if VLoN was in ORIGINAL French... or English; it came from Judah Benjamin (Head of CSA SECRET SERVICE) and ECS may know MORE about it. It IS "on-line" in English & folks interested in "Legalese" would LOVE it!
 

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... We'll probably never know who the author was but at least we understand a little bit about him...
In the 1930's, William Freidman, husband of Elizabeth Smith Friedman traveled to Lynchberg and met with James Beverly Ward's daughter, Adeline Ward McVeigh, Granddaughter, Lelia L Walker, and Great Grandson, Gorham B Walker.
Adeline, who was born in 1885, the year of the Beale Papers publication informed Friedman that her father was the job pamphlet's author. When asked if she had ever seen the iron strongbox that Morriss gave to her father, she replied no. The Walkers only provided lore passed down through the family.
William Friedman concluded the ciphers were a, "diabolical ingenuity, specifically designed to lure the unwary reader".
 

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Will get to "Legal background" shortly; (hint) Maj. Edward Sixtus Hutter (CSA), (VMI) & Vattel's LAW OF NATIONS... given to his son-in-law, ATTORNEY H. M. Gibbs.

NOW! MORE about Maj. Edward Sixtus Hutter; in charge of the CSA Artillery in Danville, Va, (FACT). VMI Grad Class of 1859 (Civil Engineering) (FACT); was at UVA studying LAW (according to sources - NOT confirmed by me), when the CONFEDERATE WAR started in 1861. THUS, COULD have been versed in "lawyer-speak". COULD be why JB gave VLoN to him...
 

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