Another Beale Pamphlet End Game?

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There existed yet another huge obstacle in the pamphlet's grand adventure that renders this portion of the tale to be extremely suspect, at the very least, and that is the required refining process of Colorado silver and gold during the period in question, 1817-1822.


Until the later part of the western gold rushes the poor refining processes administered in Colorado were generally very slow and extremely inefficient, this being due to the various minerals in the matrix, the rate of loss in these slow and poor processes even being as high as 70%. When we consider the amounts of the two alleged deposits offered in the pamphlet story then we are suddenly faced with a impossible task in a such short amount of time, or the other remaining possibility, that the two alleged deposits do not consist of natural refined gold and silver and that the gold and silver in question originated from a different source.


Obviously, if the alleged gold and silver did come from Colorado then it is almost certain that the amounts offered in the pamphlet did not consist of refined gold and silver, this then drastically effecting the end value of those two alleged deposits, and considerably so, as now we are only talking ores with no known essay value. But even if we had an essay value, and a high one at that, it would still render the refined value of the two alleged deposits to be considerably less then the extremely high estimates floating about this mystery. When one considers the required amalgamation processes for refining Colorado gold and silver with any efficiency whatsoever, processes that wouldn't even be developed for another 50 years, then it becomes quite obvious that the detailed task in the pamphlet's grand adventure was quite impossible if the amounts offered in the pamphlet represented refined gold and silver.


So where does this leave us? It leaves us with only two possibility. The first possibility is that the grand adventure never took place at all, just as the total lack of any supporting evidence and the several dependencies in the story support. The second possibility is that the amounts offered in the pamphlet were not representing refined gold and silver but only ores of unknown essay. This second possibility then drastically effecting the estimated value of the two alleged deposits. And the third possibility, the only remaining alternative if the weights offered in the pamphlet do represent refined gold and silver, is that the alleged gold and silver actually originated from a different source and that it did not originate in Colorado.


Now then, don't blame me for these resulting conclusions, instead, blame science and documented history. Even if these alleged thirty adventurers had managed to force a thousand Indians into conditions of extreme slave labor it still would have been impossible to produce the refined amounts of Colorado gold and silver detailed in the pamphlet without the correct amalgamation/refining processes which didn't come about for another 50 years or so.


Now true believers will quickly adjust to the notion that these alleged 30 adventurers held secret knowledge of these advanced processes but this is the advantage these true believers have when not confined to dealing in facts. True, I suppose it was possible that these thirty adventurers could have happened upon one or two huge nuggets that took them two years to chip away at between buffalo hunts, I suppose that would have been possible. But the bottom line here is that this summation represents just another threatening strike against the overall authenticity and genuine accuracy of the story detailed in the Beale Pamphlet. But this is something you will have to research and then decide for yourself.

 

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There existed yet another huge obstacle in the pamphlet's grand adventure that renders this portion of the tale to be extremely suspect, at the very least, and that is the required refining process of Colorado silver and gold during the period in question, 1817-1822.


Until the later part of the western gold rushes the poor refining processes administered in Colorado were generally very slow and extremely inefficient, this being due to the various minerals in the matrix, the rate of loss in these slow and poor processes even being as high as 70%. When we consider the amounts of the two alleged deposits offered in the pamphlet story then we are suddenly faced with a impossible task in a such short amount of time, or the other remaining possibility, that the two alleged deposits do not consist of natural refined gold and silver and that the gold and silver in question originated from a different source.


Obviously, if the alleged gold and silver did come from Colorado then it is almost certain that the amounts offered in the pamphlet did not consist of refined gold and silver, this then drastically effecting the end value of those two alleged deposits, and considerably so, as now we are only talking ores with no known essay value. But even if we had an essay value, and a high one at that, it would still render the refined value of the two alleged deposits to be considerably less then the extremely high estimates floating about this mystery. When one considers the required amalgamation processes for refining Colorado gold and silver with any efficiency whatsoever, processes that wouldn't even be developed for another 50 years, then it becomes quite obvious that the detailed task in the pamphlet's grand adventure was quite impossible if the amounts offered in the pamphlet represented refined gold and silver.


So where does this leave us? It leaves us with only two possibility. The first possibility is that the grand adventure never took place at all, just as the total lack of any supporting evidence and the several dependencies in the story support. The second possibility is that the amounts offered in the pamphlet were not representing refined gold and silver but only ores of unknown essay. This second possibility then drastically effecting the estimated value of the two alleged deposits. And the third possibility, the only remaining alternative if the weights offered in the pamphlet do represent refined gold and silver, is that the alleged gold and silver actually originated from a different source and that it did not originate in Colorado.


Now then, don't blame me for these resulting conclusions, instead, blame science and documented history. Even if these alleged thirty adventurers had managed to force a thousand Indians into conditions of extreme slave labor it still would have been impossible to produce the refined amounts of Colorado gold and silver detailed in the pamphlet without the correct amalgamation/refining processes which didn't come about for another 50 years or so.


Now true believers will quickly adjust to the notion that these alleged 30 adventurers held secret knowledge of these advanced processes but this is the advantage these true believers have when not confined to dealing in facts. True, I suppose it was possible that these thirty adventurers could have happened upon one or two huge nuggets that took them two years to chip away at between buffalo hunts, I suppose that would have been possible. But the bottom line here is that this summation represents just another threatening strike against the overall authenticity and genuine accuracy of the story detailed in the Beale Pamphlet. But this is something you will have to research and then decide for yourself.

Just looking at the dates for this event. Dec 1817 Santa fe 23 months later they were in VA with Gold and Silver to hide. This was not a mining operation it was a recovery!

 

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Just looking at the dates for this event. Dec 1817 Santa fe 23 months later they were in VA with Gold and Silver to hide. This was not a mining operation it was a recovery!

"If" there is any truth to the story then everything certainly seems to point in that direction. During the period in question I could find only two possible sources of wealth having been moved from west to east, both of these being illegal in nature and requiring special services and arrangements. Ironically, two of them would have also likely included jewelry/precious stones and items of this nature. Most likely, if the Beale party ever existed, then they were probably acting in the role of contracted armed couriers, just as the use of armored cars and courier services are employed today. If this is the case then this would mean that they were actually working for someone else, which would also explain the need to have third party involvement such as Morriss as further insurance of your involvement, especially true if you were not 100% trusting of the circumstances surrounding the transfers.

 

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Perhaps, perhaps not.

 

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There existed yet another huge obstacle in the pamphlet's grand adventure that renders this portion of the tale to be extremely suspect, at the very least, and that is the required refining process of Colorado silver and gold during the period in question, 1817-1822.

Until the later part of the western gold rushes the poor refining processes administered in Colorado were generally very slow and extremely inefficient, this being due to the various minerals in the matrix, the rate of loss in these slow and poor processes even being as high as 70%...

Ever been to Leadville, Colorado? Giant piles of slag are on the outskirts of town from processing silver from the local mines.

 

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Ever been to Leadville, Colorado? Giant piles of slag are on the outskirts of town from processing silver from the local mines.

Sure. But did you also know that these more efficient processes didn't come about until well after the alleged Beale enterprise. During the first portion of the Colorado rushes the rate of loss was so high that even today there are dump piles in the form of old road fill that contain high concentrates of ore. All very true. These earlier processes, which were still well after the alleged Beale enterprise, were extremely slow and inefficient.