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hoax
hōks/
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noun: hoax; plural noun: hoaxes


verb
verb: hoax; 3rd person present: hoaxes; past tense: hoaxed; past participle: hoaxed; gerund or present participle: hoaxing
1.
deceive with a hoax.
synonyms:practical joke, joke, jest, prank, trick; More

I think to most folks a "hoax" represents the intent to deceive, so perhaps hoax isn't an accurate depiction of the true nature of the narration? There are certain elements within the narration that allow it to contain a sense of realism and accuracy and yet there also exist identifiable inaccuracies in the tale that bite away at the narration's credibility. There could be a few reasons why these elements exist in the narration, a few of them perhaps explaining the identified dependencies that exist in the narration, one of these perhaps being that the author simply thought that he was writing the truth as he knew it to be? Another might be that the author had good reason for providing the discrepancies? But the real nudge in determining any of this resides around the "fact" that nobody has been able to confirm anything in the narration regarding the grand adventure or the existence of a TJB during the era. It's this complete absence of connecting facts that lends itself so readily to both the fictionalist and the true believer. The fictionalist can use this complete absence of fact to substantiate his opinion while this same absence of fact also allows the true believer to manifest and manufacture whatever he chooses. So in my mind neither side has anything conclusive to support their opinions other then those details we know for sure to be inaccurate.
 

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MAYBE, everyone were just being "snookered"... OR! MAYBE it WAS a HOAX... to deceive/mislead the FEDS looking for the CSA Treasury, last seen in Lynchburg, Va.; State CAPITAL of Virginia (April 7-10, 1865). Maj. F.C. Hutter (CSA PAYMASTER) lived there during the CONFEDERATE WAR, being "called to Richmond, Va. as needed...
 

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Rebel - KGC said:
MAYBE, everyone were just being "snookered"... OR! MAYBE it WAS a HOAX... to deceive/mislead the FEDS looking for the CSA Treasury, last seen in Lynchburg, Va.; State CAPITAL of Virginia (April 7-10, 1865). Maj. F.C. Hutter (CSA PAYMASTER) lived there during the CONFEDERATE WAR, being "called to Richmond, Va. as needed...
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Awwww , you said %&^X!

Deceit is no stranger to some type sales folks. Would seem less likely in a community where source is know though , just for coins.:dontknow:
 

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Rebel - KGC said:
MAYBE, everyone were just being "snookered"... OR! MAYBE it WAS a HOAX... to deceive/mislead the FEDS looking for the CSA Treasury, last seen in Lynchburg, Va.; State CAPITAL of Virginia (April 7-10, 1865). Maj. F.C. Hutter (CSA PAYMASTER) lived there during the CONFEDERATE WAR, being "called to Richmond, Va. as needed...
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...or Newton Hazelwood knew about the CSA treasury and general area where it was last believed to be, but used the eale Papers as a ruse and cover getting the Hart brothers to aid in his search. All Confederate assets were forfeit to the Federal government and would be claimed by the US government, BUT THE BEALE WOULD BE FREE FROM THIS CLAIM.
 

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Masterpoe, please read our rules and follow them.. NO INSULTS!
 

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Thomas J. Beale
They lived near Richmond......
Important business affairs in Richmond......
The pamphlet was published in 1885.....likely written sometime just prior
A Thomas J. Beale, the only Thomas J. Beale of record, was residing in Richmond in 1884...
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Eveidence within the pamphlet, and in the author's own details, strongly suggest that if there is any measure of truth in the tale then the author held privileged information about the details he was presenting. Gee, wonder where/who he could have gotten it from? :laughing7:
 

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bigscoop said:
Thomas J. Beale
They lived near Richmond......
Important business affairs in Richmond......
The pamphlet was published in 1885.....likely written sometime just prior
A Thomas J. Beale, the only Thomas J. Beale of record, was residing in Richmond in 1884...
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Eveidence within the pamphlet, and in the author's own details, strongly suggest that if there is any measure of truth in the tale then the author held privileged information about the details he was presenting. Gee, wonder where/who he could have gotten it from? :laughing7:
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Do a NEW "Beale Poll", & add this "theory" to it...
 

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Motion made & seconded... ALL in favor, vote; press 1 for YES! Press 2 for No. Press 3 for DUNNO. Press 4 for Who Cares! Press 5 for SHOCKING! VERY Shocking...
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Camp # 1 of TJB; "Treasure Jocks" for Beale has been called to vote... Monty Python Rules & Procedures will be STRICTLY adhered to. Now then, who has the Glue...?
 

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ECS said:
...or Newton Hazelwood knew about the CSA treasury and general area where it was last believed to be, but used the eale Papers as a ruse and cover getting the Hart brothers to aid in his search. All Confederate assets were forfeit to the Federal government and would be claimed by the US government, BUT THE BEALE WOULD BE FREE FROM THIS CLAIM.
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I think THIS is the REAL "story", which PV was alluding to with his LAST book on the Beale Treasure... CONFEDERATE TREASURE COVER-UP: Duty, Honor, & Deceit. High-ranking, CSA/VMI/SR Masons, a TRAIN, COFFINS, Off-loading from train, near Peaks of Otter... WHEW! ALSO found in PV's THE BEALE TREASURE: New
History of a MYSTERY, pg. 168-172... Chapt. 22, Mexican War and Confederacy.
 

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Geeeezzz.....now you guys sound like Jean. Hazzlewood's copies came from the original source, the publication. Most likely he was a hopeful true believer as well.
 

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