More Intel From Bigscoops Old Beale Vualt - Claims of Solves Demystified?

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If there is any truth to the Beale treasure tale then we have conclusively established that the author of the pamphlet already knew exactly what was in the ciphers and how they were composed. So with this being established now - then if he truly believed there was a treasure then why publish the story at all? Why not just go get it? Could it be that because even after having exactly what was in each cipher and knowing exactly how each cipher was composed that he still didn't know where the treasure was at?

Here's another HUGE issue that every claim of solution is eventually subject to. These claims of solution are all based on the belief that the story is true and that the treasure is real and yet even in their own claims of solve they unknowingly lay claim that the story isn't true, and here's why.

The author claims that he is publishing the pamphlet with the hope that someone will discover “the missing unintelligible piece of paper.” By definition “unintelligible” means; impossible to understand or to comprehend, and quite obviously, if we don't understand it or comprehend it then we certainly can't apply it.

So with the above the author is telling his readers that they won't be able to read or to understand or to comprehend or to apply the missing piece of paper that is still required in order to achieve a complete solve. Every claim thus far has been based on “intelligible” works so if the author's narration is true and the treasure is real then by simple default none of their solutions can be correct, nor can there be a solve without the author's knowledge of how to turn the missing unintelligible piece of paper into something intelligible. So right from the very start your pamphlet author has told his readers that they can not solve the remaining ciphers without a piece of paper that will be completely unintelligible to them.

If the story is true then this is likely the reason why Ward was named as the pamphlet's only contact, so that in the event the missing piece of paper ever came forward then Ward could direct that individual to the author, or the only man who knew how to turn that unintelligible piece of paper into something intelligible.

Now remember, before some of you tell me that I'm full of it, it is the pamphlet author that details this unintelligible missing piece of paper and the required need for it, not me. :thumbsup:
 

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...and that could construed as another disclaimer in the Beale Papers along with" let the matter alone".
 

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It's starting to rain bombs already! True drum silencers, for sure, as can be witnessed first hand in those recent threads. A new sortie is already loaded and on the runway standing by in reserve. And the best part, the pamphlet author is providing and loading the bombs. Extremely difficult to argue with him. :laughing7:
 

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If there is any truth to the Beale treasure tale then we have conclusively established that the author of the pamphlet already knew exactly what was in the ciphers and how they were composed. So with this being established now - then if he truly believed there was a treasure then why publish the story at all? Why not just go get it? Could it be that because even after having exactly what was in each cipher and knowing exactly how each cipher was composed that he still didn't know where the treasure was at?

Here's another HUGE issue that every claim of solution is eventually subject to. These claims of solution are all based on the belief that the story is true and that the treasure is real and yet even in their own claims of solve they unknowingly lay claim that the story isn't true, and here's why.

The author claims that he is publishing the pamphlet with the hope that someone will discover “the missing unintelligible piece of paper.” By definition “unintelligible” means; impossible to understand or to comprehend, and quite obviously, if we don't understand it or comprehend it then we certainly can't apply it.

So with the above the author is telling his readers that they won't be able to read or to understand or to comprehend or to apply the missing piece of paper that is still required in order to achieve a complete solve. Every claim thus far has been based on “intelligible” works so if the author's narration is true and the treasure is real then by simple default none of their solutions can be correct, nor can there be a solve without the author's knowledge of how to turn the missing unintelligible piece of paper into something intelligible. So right from the very start your pamphlet author has told his readers that they can not solve the remaining ciphers without a piece of paper that will be completely unintelligible to them.

If the story is true then this is likely the reason why Ward was named as the pamphlet's only contact, so that in the event the missing piece of paper ever came forward then Ward could direct that individual to the author, or the only man who knew how to turn that unintelligible piece of paper into something intelligible.

Now remember, before some of you tell me that I'm full of it, it is the pamphlet author that details this unintelligible missing piece of paper and the required need for it, not me. :thumbsup:

Impossible to understand or to comprehend, I like to do the Impossible . With Gods help all things can be done !
 

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Impossible to understand or to comprehend, I like to do the Impossible . With Gods help all things can be done !

If you really believe that then you can tell me which one was the barn, seagull, and lion. :laughing7: And besides, once again your logic is flawed. If what you say is true then with God's help the author could also create his illusion. :laughing7:
 

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If you really believe that then you can tell me which one was the barn, seagull, and lion. :laughing7: And besides, once again your logic is flawed. If what you say is true then with God's help the author could also create his illusion. :laughing7:

How much money do you think he could have made at 10 cents a piece with 5000-15000 people that lived in Lynchburg at the time . If he needed money he would have sent it out to the whole world not just Lynchburg and sold a dozen or so . Just look at some of the authors selling there books here, not the topic to make the best sellers list eh .
 

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The Beale Papers sold for 50 cents at first, and in 1885 that was a heavy price. Was advertised for several weeks (23?) in Button's Lynchburg Virginian, then the price was lowered to 10 cents.
You remember Charles Button, owner of the Lynchburg Virginian who stated that his sub-editor, John William Sherman, was the author of the 1885 Beale Papers.
 

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How much money do you think he could have made at 10 cents a piece with 5000-15000 people that lived in Lynchburg at the time . If he needed money he would have sent it out to the whole world not just Lynchburg and sold a dozen or so . Just look at some of the authors selling there books here, not the topic to make the best sellers list eh .

Not sure how/why you've jumped to the selling price all of a sudden?
 

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Do you have sales figures for the 1885 Beale Papers, based on the quantity of job pamphlets printed and the cost of 23 ads in the Lynchburg Virginian?
 

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Do you have sales figures for the 1885 Beale Papers, based on the quantity of job pamphlets printed and the cost of 23 ads in the Lynchburg Virginian?

Free ads in the newspaper are often free !

But most pay per word or per letter unless it was for charity .
 

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