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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpoe View Post
    Looking at a few years out from now. We shall see?
    . There have been many cipher solutions made public over the years. All of them claiming to be, "the real deal." No doubt this trend will continue just as it always has. It has long since been established through computer analysis that the two presented ciphers can't possibly hold a grammatically correct solution, thus this leaves the door open for folks to fill in those blanks and train wrecks however they desire, which many have over the years, and no doubt will continue to. BUT the real key is that the two remaining ciphers, "can't possibly hold a grammatically correct solution as presented." Also, there is no possible way that length alone could be used in determining the correct order of the ciphers, "unless that knowledge was already known by the author." Add to this, since there is no possible way to have determined the correct order of the ciphers unless this was already known by the author, "one needs to ask himself how it is that the author is certain that he has them in the correct order?" So folks who arrive at solutions have simply manufactured them out of their own personal want and desire to generate a solve, or, out of thin air. "Period!" This is all pretty much accepted fact and knowledge these days. Going to be impossible to sell rational people on anything else regardless how one goes manufacturing and presenting his solve. Most reasonable and rational people with interest in this sort of thing are wise to all of it now.
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    Quote Originally Posted by bigscoop View Post
    . There have been many cipher solutions made public over the years. All of them claiming to be, "the real deal." No doubt this trend will continue just as it always has. It has long since been established through computer analysis that the two presented ciphers can't possibly hold a grammatically correct solution, thus this leaves the door open for folks to fill in those blanks and train wrecks however they desire, which many have over the years, and no doubt will continue to. BUT the real key is that the two remaining ciphers, "can't possibly hold a grammatically correct solution as presented." Also, there is no possible way that length alone could be used in determining the correct order of the ciphers, "unless that knowledge was already known by the author." Add to this, since there is no possible way to have determined the correct order of the ciphers unless this was already known by the author, "one needs to ask himself how it is that the author is certain that he has them in the correct order?" So folks who arrive at solutions have simply manufactured them out of their own personal want and desire to generate a solve, or, out of thin air. "Period!" This is all pretty much accepted fact and knowledge these days. Going to be impossible to sell rational people on anything else regardless how one goes manufacturing and presenting his solve. Most reasonable and rational people with interest in this sort of thing are wise to all of it now.
    Yes, Franklin...your comment "a recovery of the treasure is made" is quite appropriate; it will be the definitive proof. Bigscoop, your writing above is quite good. Beale has been cracked...
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    Then show us the treasure. I know in due time. Keep it alive by posting the waiting game but in the end same as all the others as stated by bigscoop.
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    Go back over these forums and you will find ten or more with claims of deciphering the Beale Codes. You claim Jean Laf has and no one has even seen what he has and he has not even went to Bedford County to dig in over two years. Makes you think he is not too excited about his deciphering being the correct one. Just like the others neither can be proven until a RECOVERY of the TREASURE is MADE.
    Have you shown how you deciphered the pages you have copyrighted? It would prove you did it right you know ? eh!

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    If someone did decipher the two pages and post them up. Everyone would say find the treasurer. If someone deciphered them and showed how they did do it they would be King. If someone did this the Earth would shake from all of the people digging at the site were the ciphers told them!

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    Quote Originally Posted by legrand View Post
    Yes, Franklin...your comment "a recovery of the treasure is made" is quite appropriate; it will be the definitive proof. Bigscoop, your writing above is quite good. Beale has been cracked...
    With all due respect,...you mean to say, "it has been cracked yet again." This is simply an established repetitive theme with the Beale ciphers/mystery, even though it has been proven beyond a shadow of doubt that C1 "can't hold a grammatically correct solution in any language as it is presented." So what are the remaining choices? The answer here is obvious, simply fill in the blanks however one desires to get whatever they desire. "C2 is the bait of a fool's game."
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    Why would anyone ever make a claim he or she cannot prove? Attention?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThirtyDollars View Post
    Why would anyone ever make a claim he or she cannot prove? Attention?
    It would seem according to all of us here there is only two ways to prove you deciphered the ciphers. Of course finding the a hole is not one of them. Most of these who say they have deciphered the ciphers in the last 40 years will not show you how they did it. While I do understand that some time is needed to organize you work over five years would be excessive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpoe View Post
    It would seem according to all of us here there is only two ways to prove you deciphered the ciphers. Of course finding the a hole is not one of them...
    If one found a 12 foot empty vault hole except for two "Beale" period silver coins, discarded Boone's 30 gal salt brine iron pots, and two empty bottles of champagne, is that proof that something was buried there and recovered in an area known for the Beale story?
    ...and if that vault hole location was found by a deciphered Beale code?
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    I can see how someone could decipher some codes (any codes, Beale or otherwise) and then find a treasure, but I also see how the person might keep all of it a secret (sometimes the government has a funny way of claiming things as antiquity, and other pirates start up lawsuits-- see Mel Fisher). But what could never make sense is someone saying they deciphered a code but had no proof or treasure.

    Skepticism is very healthy. So no code has been cracked and no treasure has been recovered until proven publicly. Thems the facts.

    Not to mention that anyone selling treasure maps (whether books, biographies, etc.) is collecting the treasure with each purchase made by the suckers who buy those books.


    I watched a comedian (forget who) on TV who saw a piece of junk car with a big advertisement on the back that said "call this number to learn how to make $5k a week."

    The comedian wrote down the phone number and gave it to the driver of that car.
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    I can get you a copy of the deciphered Beale code right now if you like...

    For a small fee of course via PayPal...

    See I have people who know people that know even more people.... and those people know my people and I am a people...

    AND... those people are on the internet. :P

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    Quote Originally Posted by masterpoe View Post
    If someone did decipher the two pages and post them up. Everyone would say find the treasurer. If someone deciphered them and showed how they did do it they would be King. If someone did this the Earth would shake from all of the people digging at the site were the ciphers told them!
    First, over the years many have claimed to have deciphered the remaining codes, many even showing how they did it. Second, nobody is rushing to dig at these locations because folks can see right away that these proposed solutions have been the product of simple decoder desire and convenient manipulation. In fact there's been so much of it folks scarcely even pay attention, something that should be painfully obvious to all of the website and youtube creators who can hardly generate views or subscribers. This alone should provide a huge sense of the reality to the situation.
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    Yeah, MHO is that BC # 1 & BC # 3 are "RUSE(S)", showing NOTHING! BC # 2 (DOI) points to Thomas Jefferson; who, as PREZ, wanted an MILITARY INSTITUTE to train soldiers to protect the WESTERN Frontier of the Commonwealth of Virginia from "Indians", Brits, French, & lawlessness (in the WESTERN portion of our state). It became VMI, which became a "HOT-BED" of training future REBELS/CSA:VMI high-ranking officers. Yank General "Black Dave" Hunter burned VMI down (Lexington, Va., too), on his way to attack Lynchburg, Va., which later became the LAST state capital of VIRGINIA, April 7-10, 1865. The "Raid"/attack was in 1864... CSA Gen. Jubal Anderson Early (from Franklin County, Va.) kicked Hunter's arse back across the Peaks Otter and WEST past Roanoke, Va. to West Virginia. NO BC # 1 or # 3 for ME! Heh...
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    The raven and three crows mentioned that the Northern Aggressors will be gathering again at the Peaks of Otter this June 24th.
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    The Northern Aggressors have already taken everything everyone has except our lives and they are going to take them next.
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