How Long Will It Be Before The Deciphered Pages Are Made Public For Most To See.

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"Beale has been cracked"...refers to the solution of the Beale Papers. You are quite demanding. This is understandable. It's been a long time for everyone who searches for conclusion. The answer to your first question is ...yes. The answer to your second question is: how it is related can only be revealed when legal and personal issues have been completed for all to revel in the solution...this is being done right. Your, and all other persons, demands will not speed this revelation...it must be done right. To date, you know nothing...it must be this way.

BTW, a John Thomas Beale Dorsey married a Catherine Chew Mason (grand daughter of the original owner of the Cliveden mansion) in 1846 at Cliveden, which is right at four miles north to northeast of the Mount Pleasant mansion (once a tavern). Beale Papers solution = multiple parts (some published already and some unrevealed).

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"Beale has been cracked"...refers to the solution of the Beale Papers. You are quite demanding. This is understandable. It's been a long time for everyone who searches for conclusion. The answer to your first question is ...yes. The answer to your second question is: how it is related can only be revealed when legal and personal issues have been completed for all to revel in the solution...this is being done right. Your, and all other persons, demands will not speed this revelation...it must be done right. To date, you know nothing...it must be this way.

I have a feeling that we are not the only one's that "know nothing."
 

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"Beale has been cracked"...refers to the solution of the Beale Papers. You are quite demanding. This is understandable. It's been a long time for everyone who searches for conclusion. The answer to your first question is ...yes. The answer to your second question is: how it is related can only be revealed when legal and personal issues have been completed for all to revel in the solution...this is being done right. Your, and all other persons, demands will not speed this revelation...it must be done right. To date, you know nothing...it must be this way.

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BTW, a John Thomas Beale Dorsey married a Catherine Chew Mason (grand daughter of the original owner of the Cliveden mansion) in 1846 at Cliveden, which is right at four miles north to northeast of the Mount Pleasant mansion (once a tavern). Beale Papers solution = multiple parts (some published already and some unrevealed)...
"Reason for doubting these other theories is simply because of the way the supporting information is compiled...first a pet theory is formed, then the evidence will be arranged and likewise presented so that it supports the pet theory"- Brad Andrews

There is always another "true" story behind the narrative Beale story in Ward's copyrighted 1885 Beale Papers.
Is it that difficult for some to accept the job print shop pamphlet is what it is and was published for the microcosmic audience of 1885 Lynchburg?

Either the story in the Beale Papers is true as written, or it is not...
the NOT creates all these alternative story behind the story theories, and many have been discussed on these TN Beale threads, and as usual, NOTHING is resolved...
"and the beat goes on..."
 

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"Reason for doubting these other theories is simply because of the way the supporting information is compiled...first a pet theory is formed, then the evidence will be arranged and likewise presented so that it supports the pet theory"- Brad Andrews

There is always another "true" story behind the narrative Beale story in Ward's copyrighted 1885 Beale Papers.
Is it that difficult for some to accept the job print shop pamphlet is what it is and was published for the microcosmic audience of 1885 Lynchburg?

Either the story in the Beale Papers is true as written, or it is not...
the NOT creates all these alternative story behind the story theories, and many have been discussed on these TN Beale threads, and as usual, NOTHING is resolved...
"and the beat goes on..."

The Beale story is not "true" as written. There is an alternative "story," a pesher, hidden behind the Beale story and it is true as there is a location. It's this location and all surrounding it that is hidden from view for this moment. I've sufficiently explained why this must be for now. Brad Andrew's quote is moot here. Beale is cracked...

Masterpoe...Red Knee is the key that unlocks the ---------- of the Beale enigma. Red Knee is not the ultimate. Only a beginning. Send me, somehow, your email and I will gift you a book to help you understand.

Let's stop the competition here. I'm sure that when more is revealed, we will come together and work to revel in this discovery. All have deserved it.
 

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It can be whatever someone wants it to be and they can create whatever evidence the desire.
The Beale story allows "everyone" to write the rest of the story, whatever fills their own imagination and wildest fantasies. :icon_thumleft:
 

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The Beale story is not "true" as written. There is an alternative "story," a pesher, hidden behind the Beale story and it is true as there is a location. It's this location and all surrounding it that is hidden from view for this moment. I've sufficiently explained why this must be for now...
I'm sure that when more is revealed, we will come together and work to revel in this discovery. All have deserved it.
It appears you have been pushing this Ralph Waldo Emerson created this treasure hunt with the help of Edgar Allan Poe dig the usual spot at the tarantula theory since 2007 based on the steganography of those writers in your book.
Do you still maintain that Poe created the C1 cipher?
...or has that been modified during the last ten years?
 

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It appears you have been pushing this Ralph Waldo Emerson created this treasure hunt with the help of Edgar Allan Poe dig the usual spot at the tarantula theory since 2007 based on the steganography of those writers in your book.
Do you still maintain that Poe created the C1 cipher?
...or has that been modified during the last ten years?

Poe faked his "murder" and lived on in France. He was alive to have influenced the writing of C1 (as it pertains to RED KNEE). The entire Beale pesher, additionally, was created by others, however. This goes back farther than early to mid 19th century with regards to what's hidden. This is big for America.

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Poe faked his "murder" and lived on in France. He was alive to have influenced the writing of C1 (as it pertains to RED KNEE). The entire Beale pesher, additionally, was created by others, however. This goes back farther than early to mid 19th century with regards to what's hidden. This is big for America.

Legrand
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A very close scrutiny of "The Raven" DVD seems to indicate this. Where in the show do you see Poe dead and buried? Yes, it's just a movie, yet...they intimate things.
 

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A very close scrutiny of "The Raven" DVD seems to indicate this. Where in the show do you see Poe dead and buried? Yes, it's just a movie, yet...they intimate things.

Why, really, did Baudelaire so passionately transcribe Poe's works into French....WHO inspired him to do so??
 

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Yes, and Elvis was living on an island, Kennedy too, and so on and so on. These type of conspiracy theories have been around forever, despite all factual evidence to the opposite. This is just another example of how one can take a personal area of interest and weave it into the Beale mystery, as was exactly the author's intent. The Beale papers can be whatever anyone wants to imagine them to be, their wildest fantasies being their only limit.
 

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Why, really, did Baudelaire so passionately transcribe Poe's works into French....WHO inspired him to do so??
Baudelaire also translated
Thomas De Quincey's "Confessions of an English Opium Eater" into French and was addicted to laudanum and was a opium smoker.
Maybe the question should be WHAT not WHO.
 

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Poe faked his "murder" and lived on in France. He was alive to have influenced the writing of C1 (as it pertains to RED KNEE). The entire Beale pesher, additionally, was created by others, however...
Poe was run down by a runaway brougham on a Paris street during the 2nd year of the Confederate War. Charles Baudelaire identified his body at the Rue Morgue, and included among Poe's personal effects was the C1 cipher.
Baudelaire retained the cipher, making a copy that he gave Judah P Benjamin, who after escaping from the Union from Florida made his way to the Bahamas, and England, and for a short stay in Paris.
Benjamin, who gave his copy of Vattel's "Law of Nations" to CSA Major Edward Sixtus Hutter at Danville after the fall of Richmond, later mailed the cipher from London under an assumed name of Thomas J Beale to Hutter.
Hutter passed on the cipher to his brother, Ferdnand, who along with his cousin James Beverly Ward, Ward's wife and cousin John William Sherman, created the Beale Papers to distract those Northern Aggressors from looking for the VMI hidden Richmond stores and the lost Confederate treasury.
The Hart brothers, KGC descendant "guardians", added further to this subterfuge with their "Papers", and George Hart misleading Pauline Innis and her husband who were conducting a secret government search for the lost Confederate assets.

...and as the raven told the three crows, that is the way it happened, give or take a lie or two.:thumbsup:
 

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The Beale story is not "true" as written. There is an alternative "story," a pesher, hidden behind the Beale story and it is true as there is a location. It's this location and all surrounding it that is hidden from view for this moment. I've sufficiently explained why this must be for now. Brad Andrew's quote is moot here. Beale is cracked...

Masterpoe...Red Knee is the key that unlocks the ---------- of the Beale enigma. Red Knee is not the ultimate. Only a beginning. Send me, somehow, your email and I will gift you a book to help you understand.

Let's stop the competition here. I'm sure that when more is revealed, we will come together and work to revel in this discovery. All have deserved it.

If we look at each of the decipherments it will be possible to find out what was original and what was just an additional to the original work.
 

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Poe was run down by a runaway brougham on a Paris street during the 2nd year of the Confederate War. Charles Baudelaire identified his body at the Rue Morgue, and included among Poe's personal effects was the C1 cipher.
Baudelaire retained the cipher, making a copy that he gave Judah P Benjamin, who after escaping from the Union from Florida made his way to the Bahamas, and England, and for a short stay in Paris.
Benjamin, who gave his copy of Vattel's "Law of Nations" to CSA Major Edward Sixtus Hutter at Danville after the fall of Richmond, later mailed the cipher from London under an assumed name of Thomas J Beale to Hutter.
Hutter passed on the cipher to his brother, Ferdnand, who along with his cousin James Beverly Ward, Ward's wife and cousin John William Sherman, created the Beale Papers to distract those Northern Aggressors from looking for the VMI hidden Richmond stores and the lost Confederate treasury.
The Hart brothers, KGC descendant "guardians", added further to this subterfuge with their "Papers", and George Hart misleading Pauline Innis and her husband who were conducting a secret government search for the lost Confederate assets.

...and as the raven told the three crows, that is the way it happened, give or take a lie or two.:thumbsup:

Where does RED KNEE come into this scenerio, ECS? Talk about imagination...
 

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