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    WAS THE CANDLE WORTH THE GAME?

    After 132+ years no one has been able to correctly solved those two unsolved ciphers and discover the location of Beale's treasure vault nor has anyone been able to prove that the events detailed in the BEALE PAPERS narrative occurred outside of Ward's copyrighted and published pamphlet pages.

    With the abrupt end of the flurries of "solved" claims and random unrelated facts that have been pieced together as "proof", has it been concluded and accepted that the Beale Papers was a fictional dime novel with alluded "real" references included to make the story appear plausible?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    After 132+ years no one has been able to correctly solved those two unsolved ciphers and discover the location of Beale's treasure vault nor has anyone been able to prove that the events detailed in the BEALE PAPERS narrative occurred outside of Ward's copyrighted and published pamphlet pages.

    With the abrupt end of the flurries of "solved" claims and random unrelated facts that have been pieced together as "proof", has it been concluded and accepted that the Beale Papers was a fictional dime novel with alluded "real" references included to make the story appear plausible?
    YOUR opinion, ONLY! Does NOT matter... We CAN & WILL, carry on! Why..? 'Cause it is FUN! CHEERS!
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    ...but with what accurate facts to provide as proof for the Beale perilous adventure, the stay at Buford's, the treasure vault, the "unknown author" hearing the tale from Morriss during the "2nd year of the Confederate War", and so on?
    It does seem that every possible speculative theory has been discussed on these threads with the same outcome and conclusions.

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    VERY entertaining, tho. YOU can leave any time you want...

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    ...but you can never leave...like the Hotel California.
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    LOL!

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    The writer( s) may not have known for sure at the time ,and would not have been able to note future results after their deaths...but the candle was certainly worth the game! And the game worth the candle. And ink. Paper ,ect..

    A tale that has inspired digging , and has withstood the " test" of time.
    If deemed reality based ,then a challenging puzzle. With the ingredients required to trigger and hold certain readers interested in such possibilities.

    If deemed fiction , an example of good public rousing writing.

    The thought and consideration of human response/ reaction to certain stimuli not just happenstance in such writing. Making it in my opinion darned good for it's time if it is fiction.
    ( I'm trying to write neutrally.)
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    Ward's published pamphlet may well be the "GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL"...
    ...or a way for Max Guggenheimer, Esq, to sell large amounts of candle merchandise at his department store in 1885.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Ward's published pamphlet may well be the "GREAT AMERICAN NOVEL"...
    ...or a way for Max Guggenheimer, Esq, to sell large amounts of candle merchandise at his department store in 1885.
    Shovels! Size # 2. Like hot-cakes baby!
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    "Buy a book, get a pick and shovel, strike for Buford's , dig, grow rich or starve"
    - John William Sherman, book review, April 10, 1865-LYNCHBURG VIRGIAIAN, Page1, Column 3.
    John William Sherman was James Beverly Ward's cousin and the printer of THE BEALE PAPERS.
    Max Guggenheimer, who was the only living person mentioned by name in THE BEALE PAPERS, ran advertisements for his department store in the LYNCHBURG VIRGINIAN.
    Was this the first example of clever subliminal marketing?

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    COULD BE!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    YOUR opinion, ONLY! Does NOT matter... We CAN & WILL, carry on! Why..? 'Cause it is FUN! CHEERS!
    ...and one can always buy another candle.
    ...today, they even sell Yankee Candles in Lynchburg.
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    LOL! Yeah... they burn out QUICK!

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    ...but you can never leave...like the Hotel California.
    LOL! This is a VERY "haunting" place for YOU; YOU are obsessed! Virginia Hotel, here in the "Burg", is NOW taking reservations... SPOOKY!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    LOL! Yeah... they burn out QUICK!
    Those who knew the worth of the candle:
    James Beverly Ward, of course
    Harriet Emmaline Otey Ward
    John William Sherman
    Max Guggenheimer
    Charles W Button
    Vincent A Witcher
    Rowland D Buford
    Margaret L Buford
    Ann Buford Hall
    ...all were contemporaries of the 1885 BEALE PAPERS publishing and sale, some directly involved, others involved after it was placed on sale due to a family name mentioned to create plausibility of the presented narrative.

 

 
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