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  1. #46

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    True... it was "made up" in 1882.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    True... it was "made up" in 1882.
    With the total lack of even a miniscule piece of evidence, that makes your statement highly accurate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    ...and the actual FACTS are:
    Who copyrighted and published the Beale Papers
    Where it as printed
    Where it was advertised
    ...and in the narrative text"
    Robert Morris did manage the Washington Hotel
    At whose homes Robert Morris and his wife Sarah passed away.
    ...and that's all there is folks!

    Everything else is imaginative speculation masqueraded as fact that totally lack supporting evidence, and very easy to disproved.
    My question is WHY?, why publish them ECS? What was the motive? In my own case, it was money. I published a secret about a treasure for the money to buy better equipment to find it myself. I intentionally withheld information so nobody else could get what I seek myself, yet I aroused that very curiosity in everyone by showing them the sack and shaking it with the cat inside so they can tell I have one caught without letting him out of the bag so anyone could grab him up from me. The only difference I can see between the writers of Bealle and me is that every now and then I pull the cat's tail out and shake it at you guys just so you know I ain't about what I have in the sack.

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    "HISTORY IS A PACK OF LIES AGREED UPON " Napoleon Bonaparte

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    Quote Originally Posted by L.C. BAKER View Post
    My question is WHY?, why publish them ECS? What was the motive? ...
    "Unanswered is the question as to why as to why he (Ward) wrote the story"
    -Lt Thomas Fawcett to Col William Freidman ,April 30, 1949 after conducting "boots on the ground" interviews in Lynchburg and Bedford county concerning the Beale treasure story.

    Most likely, Ward was in dire financial straights and it was published to bring in money.
    50 cents in 1885 was a hefty amount about $14.00 in todays money.
    The Beale Papers "was published for the express purpose of selling copies of it for profit and the ciphers should be considered in the same light as the myriad "treasure maps" which are said in the Southern states purporting to come down from pirate days".-
    Elizabeth Smith Friedman, US government codebreaker and wife of Col William Friedman
    Last edited by ECS; Mar 17, 2019 at 08:37 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    With the total lack of even a miniscule piece of evidence, that makes your statement highly accurate.
    TY, I think...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    True... it was "made up" in 1882.
    Using FACTS of "TRUE, AUTHENTIC" EVENTS of HISTORY, at "THE ARLINGTON" (which STILL stands on Church Street, as Apartments); back in the OLD days, Jubal Early, (CSA) as a lawyer went to "A" for his morning coffee before going to his office in Lynchburg, Va. near Main Street. The INNER CIRCLE of RM's family & friends has FUN in 1882. TOO much info to share.

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    Your opinion.

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    My Dad is a believer in Bealle treasure because of the coding method they used, but I don't think he follows all of the info on the people you have ECS He has always speculated that it is tied to the K.G.C. because of the timeline and code is the same style. I am intrigued by the same things he is but after reading this site info I have not swallowed it whole yet.

    L.C.
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    "HISTORY IS A PACK OF LIES AGREED UPON " Napoleon Bonaparte

  9. #54

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    Your opinion.
    NOPE... FACTS!

  10. #55

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    "Unanswered is the question as to why as to why he (Ward) wrote the story"
    -Lt Thomas Fawcett to Col William Freidman ,April 30, 1949 after conducting "boots on the ground" interviews in Lynchburg and Bedford county concerning the Beale treasure story.

    Most likely, Ward was in dire financial straights and it was published to bring in money.
    50 cents in 1885 was a hefty amount about $14.00 in todays money.
    The Beale Papers "was published for the express purpose of selling copies of it for profit and the ciphers should be considered in the same light as the myriad "treasure maps" which are said in the Southern states purporting to come down from pirate days".-
    Elizabeth Smith Friedman, US government codebreaker and wife of Col William Friedman
    DYK? W. Friedman's papers are at VMI...? His wife E. Friedman's are there, too... including her stuff on the BEALE TREASURE! JOY! YEP! NSA was there!

 

 
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