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    JANUARY 1822 THE WASHINGTON HOTEL

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    i just noticed i put 1820 instead of 1822 in the thread title
    and i dont know how to fix it
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    Lynchburg Press, Volume 13, Number 40, 11 January 1822
    it says a mr moorman owns washington inn

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    https://virginiachronicle.com/?a=d&d...ynchburg%2c+VA

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    Lynchburg Press, Volume 13, Number 42, 25 January 1822
    a mr moorman owns washington inn

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    https://virginiachronicle.com/?a=d&d...ynchburg%2c+VA
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    Thanks. You can go back and edit and then it save. I read the 1817 all day yesterday. Thanks for a great way to read. I have gotten copies on microfilm but the microviewer was crap. Thank you ever so much for furthering the research on the Beale Treasure. I screenshoted some of that yesterday and it all disappeared. You have to save the screenshots or they are gone forever. All that reading for nothing. Again thank you. You have helped tremendously.
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    Here is the "Washington Inn" dated May 19, 1820. It was blurred so I copied it in a later addition of the newspaper, May 30, 1820. This proves without a doubt the Washington Inn was there when the "Job Print Pamphlet" said Thomas Beale visited.

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    E Sullivan , ivory miniature carver, glasses, gold settings, etc had a room there only confirms that the Washington Inn was open for business in May 1820, not that Robert Morris was the owner or propeitor or that Thomas J Beale stayed there.
    January 1822 clearly states it was owned by a "Mr Moorman".
    Who is this Mr Henry Morris, female educator who also provide "genteel boarding" at the academy or reputable private houses?
    Related to Robert Morris?
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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    Here is the "Washington Inn" dated May 19, 1820. It was blurred so I copied it in a later addition of the newspaper, May 30, 1820. This proves without a doubt the Washington Inn was there when the "Job Print Pamphlet" said Thomas Beale visited.

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    NOT the same as Washington Hotel, opened in 1823... run by Robert MORRIS.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebel - KGC View Post
    NOT the same as Washington Hotel, opened in 1823... run by Robert MORRIS.
    But a good example of random unrelated information used as proof that the Beale story actually occurred outside of the pamphlet pages.
    This is how questionable information gets posted as fact, and continues to be repeated as fact.
    Last edited by ECS; Dec 02, 2019 at 11:22 PM.

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    Oh, it's a FACT from Lynchburg, Va. REAL history. Robert MORRIS did "run" the Washington Hotel, as stated; YOU dispute this...?

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    No, just the jump to conclusion that "proves that without a doubt" because the Washington Inn existed at the of the Beale visit in the story, therefore alluding that this is "proof" that the visit by Beale did occur from an ad that only mentions the Washington Inn.
    Now if there was a contemporary newspaper article that mentioned Thomas J Beale staying at the Washington Hotel/Inn/Morris home, that would be real proof of a "Thomas Beale visit".
    Who was Mr Moorman and how long did he own the Washington Inn?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    No, just the jump to conclusion that "proves that without a doubt" because the Washington Inn existed at the of the Beale visit in the story, therefore alluding that this is "proof" that the visit by Beale did occur from an ad that only mentions the Washington Inn.
    Now if there was a contemporary newspaper article that mentioned Thomas J Beale staying at the Washington Hotel/Inn/Morris home, that would be real proof of a "Thomas Beale visit".
    Who was Mr Moorman and how long did he own the Washington Inn?
    From all your prior post you have contented that the Washington Inn/House/Hotel was not in operation until 1823 as by the newspaper article Rebel alluded to. Now I see you have jumped on the other side of the fence. Just because the Washington Inn/House/Hotel existed does not mean Thomas Beale visited Robert Morriss at that location. Of course it does not any d... fool would know that but this is just another stumbling block knocked down. And I will continue to knock down all of your contentions of the story not happening because of Those ? question marks keep going away and sooner or later we will know the complete story. Hang in there ECS your answers are coming. I have also previously stated years ago about how the Washington Inn became the Washington House the Washington Hotel and then became the Arlington. So I will not try to help any further on that issue.

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    Quote Originally Posted by franklin View Post
    ... I have also previously stated years ago about how the Washington Inn became the Washington House the Washington Hotel and then became the Arlington. So I will not try to help any further on that issue.
    ...and none of that Washington Hotel chronology are just footnotes that really have nothing to do with the pamphlet's Beale story.
    Just like posts concerning who founded the PIGGLY WIGGLY grocery chain, interesting footnote, but has no real bearing on the presented Beale tale.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    ...and none of that Washington Hotel chronology are just footnotes that really have nothing to do with the pamphlet's Beale story.
    Just like posts concerning who founded the PIGGLY WIGGLY grocery chain, interesting footnote, but has no real bearing on the presented Beale tale.
    Nothing means nothing to you because you hang on to the 23 page pamphlet while we are out here trying to verify the story as real or as fake. You still stand on the same ground the pamphlet's Beale Story. Why do you not let people talk and research just maybe we can figure this out. Your ground can stay where it is grounded int he Job Print Pamphlet.
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    maps of the hotels locations

    long post
    the Washington inn was a tavern & a hotel per the clip
    and in 1820 per the book pgs 76-77 see map
    pg 77 from Lynchburg and Its People
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    By William Asbury Christian
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...&q=inn&f=false

    no first name given,morriss hotel locaton in 1842
    see map
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    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...orriss&f=false

    maps i put the morriss hotel, and the norvell house
    same map they are a block apart

    1860
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    1877
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    1891
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    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860
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    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860 now Arlington 1877
    Click image for larger version. 

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    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860, Arlington 1877
    now the norvell Arlington hotel 1891
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    maps links
    1860 Blackford map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/BlackfordMap.htm
    1877 Grays map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/Grays_Map.htm
    1891 baist map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/Baist_whole.htm

    maps source
    Maps, Pans, and Aerials

    info for hotels and locations
    pg 330 norvell house
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...orvell&f=false
    search term hotel
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...q=hotel&f=true
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    ...and how is knowing who founded the PIGGLY WIGGLY grocery chain going to "verify the Beale story as real or as fake"?
    That, as I stated, is a footnote, while interesting piece of genealogy, has nothing to do with the Beale Story in the Job Print Pamphlet which it the original and only source of Beale's perilous adventure treasure tale and alleged stay with Morris and then while constructing the treasure vault, at Bufords.
    All the "talk and research" has never yielded one miniscule bit of evidence that the Beale story ever occurred outside of the pamphlets 23 pages, and I have never not "let" people talk and research, just correct some of the wrong misinformation and pure speculation posted as fac, of which you are quite aware.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ECS View Post
    ...and how is knowing who founded the PIGGLY WIGGLY grocery chain going to "verify the Beale story as real or as fake"?
    That, as I stated, is a footnote, while interesting piece of genealogy, has nothing to do with the Beale Story in the Job Print Pamphlet which it the original and only source of Beale's perilous adventure treasure tale and alleged stay with Morris and then while constructing the treasure vault, at Bufords.
    All the "talk and research" has never yielded one miniscule bit of evidence that the Beale story ever occurred outside of the pamphlets 23 pages, and I have never not "let" people talk and research, just correct some of the wrong misinformation and pure speculation posted as fac, of which you are quite aware.
    Only YOU are "into" Piggly-Wiggly...
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    Quote Originally Posted by cw0909 View Post
    long post
    the Washington inn was a tavern & a hotel per the clip
    and in 1820 per the book pgs 76-77 see map
    pg 77 from Lynchburg and Its People
    Click image for larger version. 

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    By William Asbury Christian
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...&q=inn&f=false

    no first name given,morriss hotel locaton in 1842
    see map
    Click image for larger version. 

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    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...orriss&f=false

    maps i put the morriss hotel, and the norvell house
    same map they are a block apart

    1860
    Click image for larger version. 

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Views:	16 
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ID:	1776869
    1877
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ID:	1776870
    1891
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    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1860 Blackford map.png 
Views:	13 
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ID:	1776872

    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860 now Arlington 1877
    Click image for larger version. 

Name:	1877 grays map.png 
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ID:	1776874

    where the Washington inn was,and the
    Washington house 1860, Arlington 1877
    now the norvell Arlington hotel 1891
    Click image for larger version. 

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Views:	16 
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ID:	1776876

    maps links
    1860 Blackford map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/BlackfordMap.htm
    1877 Grays map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/Grays_Map.htm
    1891 baist map
    http://lynchburghistory.com/zoomify/Baist_whole.htm

    maps source
    Maps, Pans, and Aerials

    info for hotels and locations
    pg 330 norvell house
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...orvell&f=false
    search term hotel
    https://books.google.com/books?id=CB...q=hotel&f=true
    Those buildings of the Norvell House are not the same as the Washington Inn. The Norvell House was on Lot #30 and the Washington House/Inn was on Lot #23. All though the Washington after Robert Morriss' death was changed to the Norvell Arliington Hotel and even later after 1891 it was called just the Arlington.

 

 
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