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    My Oldest Token/Coin Yet!!!!!! *1669* New pics.New camera!

    Okay here is the story.Nasty day been raining seems like for ever here.Left this morning anyway to go back to this spot that just keeps producing coins for me and very old stuff.Other then today being so nasty with rain,wind NE 25 mph,and tide high.Once off the boat all good.With the tide so high I was planing to work the edge of the woods at this site.Been wanting to anyway was trying to wait till cooler weather but with the wind blowing so hard it kept the mosquitos at bae.I could see my GTI 1500 was liking the ground being damp.IT was picking signals up in places I had been quite a few times already,was liking that.Anyway got started and was poping old buttons,early musket shot,and some realy nice old pieces of buckles out.When I got the signal for this coin.Right away I knew it was going to be old.They just all have been 1730 hammered cob,1746 milled real,Irish half pennys.Anyway got it out and could see the date right away 1669 Happy Dance?YES and then some.But got a problem don't yet know what it is.So PLEASE HELP! Don't want to mess it up.
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Looks more like a Token

    Nice find though

    SS.
    Don't piss down my back, then tell me it's raining.

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!


    Wow! Real Cool.
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Nice finds in those relics and very old coin That my friend is indeed an oldie, especially from 1669, I'd be doing the dance all day long
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Looks more like a Token

    Nice find though

    SS.
    yeah, English 17th C token (brass halfpenny) - wow in the US They were only spendable in the 1 shop that produced them.
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Can you make out the letters, I have a book on these & could get a full ID.

    Looks like:

    HIS
    PENNY
    (in middle, strange, I only seen halfpenny & farthings)

    IN 1669 (= the place name)

    Otherside shows a wool rack or something?? With the Owners Name? What letter & spaces do you see?
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Quote Originally Posted by Silver Searcher
    Looks more like a Token

    Nice find though

    SS.
    yeah, English 17th C token (brass halfpenny) - wow in the US They were only spendable in the 1 shop that produced them.

    It probably passed for a Farthing. I'm not in the US but almost anything was accepted here.

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Just realised it might be:

    HIS
    H'PENY

    (which would be a halfpenny)

    I think I see LEEDS (?) as the Name place, any name visible?
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

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    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Can you make out the letters, I have a book on these & could get a full ID

    Otherside shows a wool rack or something??


    It's a tobacco roll - Pipes.




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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Can you make out the letters, I have a book on these & could get a full ID.

    Looks like:

    HIS
    PENNY
    (in middle, strange, I only seen halfpenny & farthings)

    IN 1669 (= the place name)

    Otherside shows a wool rack or something?? With the Owners Name? What letter & spaces do you see?
    Front side has IN* DEED around edge * S,in middle says His PENNY II,On Back I see AMBL-I*2omBENOS I think.

    Thanks,Timekiller
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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    OK, this is the closest I can find:

    Edward Massey (should be on the side with the picture)


    IN LEEDS 1669
    (edge)

    HIS
    PENNY
    (Middle)

    Does this fit?
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    It's old for sure...Coinage I don't think so, looks like a private mint...It could have a low mintage...
    Best Find Yet: 1853 $1 Gold Piece & Abe Lincoln Re-Election Pin 1864

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by timekiller
    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    Can you make out the letters, I have a book on these & could get a full ID.

    Looks like:

    HIS
    PENNY
    (in middle, strange, I only seen halfpenny & farthings)

    IN 1669 (= the place name)

    Otherside shows a wool rack or something?? With the Owners Name? What letter & spaces do you see?
    Front side has IN* DEED around edge * S,in middle says His PENNY II,On Back I see AMBL-I*2omBENOS I think.

    Thanks,Timekiller
    http://www.ncdot.org/doh/preconstruc...nt/ambler.html

    Read the story!

    GOT IT!

    AMBROSE AMBLER 1d 1669 Tobacco-Roll pipes

    £85 in book, makes it pretty rare!
    TOO BUSY TO DETECT,YOU'RE TOO BUSY!!!

    'Time isn't money it's finds, unless your finds are money' 08/12/17
    'No good comes from thinking about how much time we waste detecting, as wasted time is good soul time' 25/06/08
    A real man thinks about detecting every 6 seconds.
    'They look over their shoulder, I look to the ground' 30/09/12
    We can not understand ourselves unless we understand our HISTORY.
    PMA:Positive MetalDetecting Attitude.
    ONE LIFE - DETECT IT

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Edit: Cru, I see you beat me by a minute; congrats--and the same to the finder.
    Some history:
    In 1644, the English Parliament decided to stop making coins. This action caused a severe shortage of the small, or low denomination, coins that people use everyday. To help with the problem, many store owners had coin-like tokens made to give as small change to their customers. The next time the customers shopped at the store they could use these tokens like money, even though they were not real coins. Often these tokens were stamped with the names of the shop and a design that told people who didn't know how to read where they could spend them. For example, a tobacco shop token might show a smoking pipe. The tokens were usually of value only in the neighborhood or city where they were issued. The use of tokens in England continued until the English king Charles II ordered the minting of small coins in 1672. The crown punished people who continued to use the tokens, so many people were probably stuck with useless tokens.

    Don.....

    www.ncdot.org/doh/preconstruct/pe/ohe/archaeology/edenhouse/print/ambler.html+%22His+Penny%22+1669+token&cd=5&hl=en& ct=clnk&ie=UTF-8]Link to the source[/url]

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    Re: My Oldest Coin Yet!!!!!!

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUSADER
    OK, this is the closest I can find:

    Edward Massey (should be on the side with the picture)


    IN LEEDS 1669
    (edge)

    HIS
    PENNY
    (Middle)

    Does this fit?
    No front I see purdy good it's( in deed)EDward massey not on it
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