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  1. #1

    Sep 2004
    Western Mass.
    fisher 1265, fisher 1270, tesoro vaquero
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    1873 Doubled LIBERTY Indian Head! Rarest of all....!

    Update April 13th: please see below...

    I knew I had found an Indian Head, but didn't check it out until I got home. When I looked in the Red Book at the 1873 IH, I saw the "double liberty" variety, and I think that's what I have here...tell me I'm not going crazy!


    Was very careful with it, only wiped it once gently with a nylon brush. I'll try to take some closer pictures of it in higher res, but here's a close-up....


    It'd be an awesome find if it is. Would it be worth getting it graded?

    Still shaking...

    Steve


    UPDATE: Wow, thanks everyone for your replies and votes, it means a lot. Two different dealers have confirmed the authenticity of this coin. About XF condition, suggested that I do indeed send off to ANACS to grade. Man, I'm thrilled to have such a special coin.

    I went back yesterday, but was unsuccessful in finding anything else of value. A beautiful stretch of woods, very close to a lake, the perfect setting for spring detecting. Amazing that I found this Indian Head within ten minutes of a half-hour hunt after work...but then yesterday was out for three hours without any signals save shotgun shells.

    No matter, these old woods must have more secrets. An old estate is close to where I was, just a matter now of zeroing in on the hot spots!

    I took some more photos, I'm sorry they're not great, but I don't have a good camera. The reverse as you can see is pretty much the same as the obverse condition-wise, save some dirt that I'm afraid to touch....


    1873 Doubled LIBERTY Indian Head! Rarest of all....!-1873ihr.jpg



    Thanks again all,
    Steve


    UPDATE Well, I got the coin back from ANACS, good news is that they saw fit to give it AU50 details, but, of course, marked it "heavily corroded" and "scratched". Not surprising since it spent 130 years or so in the dirt.



    Dave, you had it right on, Closed 3 Snow-1 FS #101 (formerly FS1-009). Once again, I consider myself EXTREMELY fortunate to have found such a rare coin in this shape! Proves to all of us that they're out there!

    I'm submitting the photos to W&E, I hope this coin might make their Top Finds. Then I will probably sell, I haven't really decided yet.

    Happy hunting,
    Steve

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    seek and ye shall find sayeth the Lord

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  3. #2
    us
    Sep 2008
    Tamaqua Pa
    V3i
    449

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Sure looks it, and yeah That would be worth grading, great find

  4. #3
    us
    Oct 2006
    Pittsfield
    1266
    71

    Re: Is this what I think it is???


    .....looks like a good one steve! Been a good week for ya.......lets get out tomorrow

    even as a dug coin that's got to be worth a nice chunk of change

  5. #4

    Mar 2008
    upstate ny
    se pro
    1,102
    3 times
    dirty pennies
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    wow. looks like it. she's in great shape, too.
    dirty pennies...

  6. #5
    us
    Oct 2009
    Northern VA
    Whites Blue Gray & Tesoro Cibola
    2,755
    1 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Wow. It sure looks like a double liberty. In the pics it looks like you can see at least part of the diamond shapes on the ribbon. If so it would grade about Very Fine to Extremely Fine. In VF that coin books for $1,200 in EF $2,400. A dug coin is going to be worth less than a nondug one but it is still a super nice coin.

  7. #6

    Mar 2005
    mid-michigan
    Whites Coinshooter 2, Garrett GTA 1000 Ultra, Bounty Hunter Landstar, Bounty Hunter Lonestar
    81
    2 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Nice Find!! Looks like the real deal and in fantastic shape!
    CONGRATS hh bob
    Rabie shots come in handy sometimes!

  8. #7
    us
    Jan 2009
    Illinois
    Radio Shack Discovery 3000
    921
    2 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Congrats. I hope it is. Yea worth taking somewhere and double check it.
    HH in 2010
    KW

  9. #8
    us
    Dec 2007
    South Central PA
    2,909
    28 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Quote Originally Posted by Knightwalker
    Congrats. I hope it is. Yea worth taking somewhere and double check it.
    HH in 2010
    KW
    Don't need to get that double checked the L an the I is quite obviously doubled to the untrained eye....
    some people call me the creeper ,cuz they don't know my name or face - Alice Cooper

  10. #9
    us
    Treasure Hunting America Texas Style

    Oct 2007
    born in 3 sisters, tx. now living west of tilden texas towards laredo on a ranch as a ranch hand
    X-Terra70, X-Terra 50, Ace250, Ace150, GTI 1500,GTA 1000 Ultra, Tejon, Vaquero
    656
    1 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    1873 closed 3
    URS 9

    BREEN# 1986; SNOW - 1
    FS #1 -009

    INTEREST RATING *****
    Double Die Obverse (I-O-V)
    Type of Variety is strong doubled, as is the eye, and the feather spines. Closed 3
    PUP: LIBERTY
    VALUE: Very Good - $400, XF - $2,500, AU - $5,000, MS64RB - $20,000, MS65RB - $$55,000 (actual sales)

    Comments: This is considered the "chief" of the Indian cents varieties. Demand for this variety is very high, and can be sold easily.

    All info. is from the book by Bill Fivaz & J. T. Stanton
    THE CHERRY PICKERS GUIDE
    TO RARE DIE VARIETIES
    FORTH EDITION - VOLUME ONE

    1873 Doubled LIBERTY Indian Head! Rarest of all....!-cherrypickers-guide.jpg


    Dave
    [i]Treasure Hunting America Texas Style
    [i]http://davemann.webs.com/

  11. #10
    us
    Apr 2006
    Bellevue, WA
    Minelab Explorer SE, Tesoro TigerShark
    5,758
    2 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Very nice find!
    Anyone can make life interesting you just have to go out there and do things instead of sitting on your butt doing nothing. Second quote: Life is about trying new things not just standing around.

  12. #11
    us
    Apr 2009
    Madison, CT
    White's mxt Pro / Sun Ray DX / Ultimate Gray Ghost's / Lesche
    484
    5 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    No doubt about it!!BANNER!!

  13. #12

    Oct 2006
    Zelienople
    White's XLT
    4,090
    32 times
    Honorable Mentions (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Fantastic find, and wonderful condition for a dug Indian; lucky for you the ground was gentle with it!
    A gentleman farmer named Floyd
    With some of his kin was annoyed
    The boys in their youth
    Did not know the truth
    And one of his tools was destroyed

  14. #13
    us
    Apr 2008
    Moronica, northwest of Chicago.
    E-trac & Bounty Hunter Land Star
    4,696
    2 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Outstanding find!!!

    Great condition, too!
    God bless our veterans! Thank you for your sacrifices!

  15. #14
    us
    presidential campaign items, 1860 JOHN BELL-EDWARD EVERETT tin type pic token, 1888 Benjamin Harrison pin. 1876 CENTENNIAL REVOLUTIONARY WAR MEDAL WITH BARON VON STEUBEN AND GENERAL GEORGE WASHINGTON. CW RELICS 1864 Union store card,3 I,1 R, eagle buttons

    Dec 2008
    ILL
    Minelab Safari, Garrett pro pointer, bounty hunter 202 with a 10in magnum coil, Automax pinpointer,
    4,185
    34 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    that is a very nice IH!!!!!!!!!! MR TUFF
    oldest dug 1831 William IIII. 1844 1/6 Skilling. 1834,51,72,76,84-86,89,1900o-94s,97-11,13 Dimes. 1854,56,76s,94,99,1902,06,09d,11,15s Qtrs. 1864,65 2cent. 79,83cc Morgan. 1867,68,69,75,82,87,88,90,91,93,95,97,98,1900,02,0 4-09,11,12d Nickles. 1848,56,59,61,64-67-69,73-75,81-85,87-09 Cent.

  16. #15
    Charter Member
    us
    Jan 2009
    South East Tennessee on Ga, Ala line
    Tesoro Conquistador freq shift Fisher F75 Garrett AT-Pro Larson mo jo pro Flippin stick
    9,860
    1286 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Ok now I am going to have to get all mine out and look for the double liberty. Congratulations that looks in great condition.
    TnMtns
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  17. #16
    us
    Dec 2007
    Virginia
    Minelab Xterra 70, Vibra Probe 570,Ace 250 w/Sunray Probe, Glock 27
    244

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Fo Sho, double Liberty!

    The top as far as I.H. cents are concerned. Find a reputable coin dealer and SLAB that coin.
    You better obey.

  18. #17
    us
    Aug 2009
    83
    1 times

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Quote Originally Posted by cheffer
    I knew I had found an Indian Head, but didn't check it out until I got home. When I looked in the Red Book at the 1873 IH, I saw the "double liberty" variety, and I think that's what I have here...tell me I'm not going crazy!
    What you have there, is the lesser version of the Powerball lottery. If the back side of that coin looks as good as the front side, you're going to send it off to PCGS and get it certified and graded ASAP -- and I'd take out the insurance on it!

    Even in dug condition, it might be worth thousands of dollars, it looks at least XF40 to me, maybe better. Need to see a much higher resolution image of both sides. PCGS says only 122 are known to exist. ** Been staring at it, it's definitely the "Closed 3" variety, and the break in the "D" on the left side matches other doubled-LIBERTY examples. You got a winner! Get it slabbed!

    Greg

  19. #18
    us
    Mar 2009
    Olympia Wa
    White's Id10t
    174
    1 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    holy smokes!!!! thats awsome!
    im still waiten to find my 1st one!
    what ever your looking for, KEEP DIGGING! Dank

  20. #19

    May 2005
    Maine
    Minelab Etrac
    3,372
    8 times
    All Types Of Treasure Hunting
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    Congrats on the rarest of rare Indian!

  21. #20
    us
    May 2006
    The Beautiful Berkshires in Western Mass.
    White's DFX
    492
    3 times
    Banner Finds (1)

    Re: Is this what I think it is???

    An absolute DREAM find Steve!!!.........beautiful dug error Indian!!

    This is BANNER ALL DAY LONG in my opinion ..........and I hope the moderators see it for the rarity that it is.

    Great job bringing a highly collectable coin back from the dead.

    Congrats!!

    HH all!

    Greg


 

 
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