1875 English Penny, used as id tag. Tsgman

Snee

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Oct 24, 2005
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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

That's an awesome find! Keep in mind there have been thousands and thousands of C C Moss's...but it's probably him. Good luck on it all! :D
 

Bavaria Mike

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Whoa dude, that is some very personal history you found, surely one of a kind! Was probably used like this bridal collet. HH and darn nice find, Mike
47b5cc04b3127cce96428c3c258c00000016108AYsWjhy5cta
 

treasures4me2find

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Congrats on your great find and thanks for the research history that goes with it. Always learning something new, that what makes this a great hobby.

Ken
 

pgill

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Great find, and I commend all of you for the research...... It gives that little disc a lot of history... I would frame it with the history.

God bless
Peter
 

groundfisher

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

What a great historical Civil War relic.Thats a Best finds peice for sure.
I really liked the research by Gypsy as a side note.Best of luck on tracking relatives.
Absolutely awesome! HH!
 

Leon

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Totally awesome find, WTG!!!
I would imagine that would be a great piece for a museum?
Good luck, & Happy hunting~
 

EDDE

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

STUNNING....... :o
 

Smartin

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

C.C. Moss, CW vet, sheriff of Green Co.Don't think detect'n gets any better than to find a verifiable part of history.

Great find TSGMan, one of the best I've seen!
Smartin
 

Gypsy Heart

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

tsgman said:
Thanks Gypsy, that is a cool story. I have read some items on that site but missed that particular one. My GG Grandfather was also a sheriff of Greene Co. He was the 4th one and was in office two terms in the 1870's The famous picture of Wild Bill wearing his Union frock jacket with the Eagle belt plate and both pistols in his holster in reverse, came from a relative of mine. They sold it a few years ago, it was in a family photo album. Dan Fouts bought it a few years ago. Fouts was the Quarterback for the San Diego Chargers football team. He collects old Cowboy photo's. I was told he paid twelve thousand dollars for it. You know the saying you can pick your friends but not your relatives! Tsgman

Unreal...I wouldnt have sold it....I have some older volumes of Civil War records and will look for more on Moss if you need them ....
 

The Seeker

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Great story Tsgman....Finding Relics that link something or someone to past History is a special find. Then finding the information is the best part , Not knowing what info your gonna find or the places or the person themselves who are involved....Make those finds exceptional....I myself have found a Relic from the Civil war that had a name on it...It's a commemorative medal give to a Union Soldier who was captured at the battle of Plymouth and escorted as a Prisoner to Andersonville ,GA during the war....When I have a little more info on this piece I will post the story.....and for you Gypsyheart ,you have given some excellent insite and research for many of the finds posted in this forum...I also want to thank you for your help with my Medal as well as Tsgmans....... Seeker 8)
 

Gypsy Heart

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Now I truly feel that I have been honored by some of the best researchers and detectors on this forum. Its your finds that provide me with the research material to go on. You know I love 1812 and CW, so you keep finding it and I will happily research it for you. And thank you for providing me with such great material to help you with because it has kept me from going insane this winter as I cant dig in this frozen tundra!!!!! :)
 

Klick

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Truely amazing find - and research. 2 gold medals for Gypsy and Tsgman. Thanks a bunch for sharing.
 

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tsgman

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Gypsy, thanks for your info. I mentioned Moss was Sheriff when in fact he was the Marshall of Springfield. My Great Great Grandfather C.B. Owen was the Sheriff of Greene Co. in 1872 and was relected again around 1874 or close to that. So They would have known each other and worked together chasing bad guys and so on. My Grandfather told me a story when I was a kid about how his grandfather [Sheriff C.B. Owen} was the principle guide for Gen. Sigel when Lyon attacked Price at Wilson's creek. Sigel was routed by a regiment from Louisanna, he thought they were from Iowa. Anyway, His Grandfather was interviewed years later and asked how he eccaped without being shot, killed or captured and he replied that " I had a dam fast horse! " Thanks again, Tsgman
 

livetoplay804

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

tsgman.....do I know you. BTW TSGMAN is the VP of the Ozark Mountain Treasure Hunters if anyone is looking to meet him in person. Maybe get some tips.

Congrats on the find. You been back over to that creek lately?
 

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tsgman

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

Hey Chris how's the ankle? BTW, Chris is the Secretary for our Club, and produces our news letter. He really is good! Tsgman
 

LONE GUNMAN

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

PLAIN AND SIMPLE, I AM IMPRESSED.....it is always a great feeling to be able to tie ones history into your own, most people will never know what it is like to hold onto something that was lost along time ago, and be able to trace it to a historical person.
great job.
lgp
 

Gypsy Heart

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Re: 1875 English cent, used as id tag. Tsgman

So far I have found 11 CC Moss's from that time frame , but narrowed the information down to the one that lived in the vicinity of where the token was found......
The Dyers County TN Moss is as follows:
Charles C. Moss
Company G. Enlisted December 1, 1863 in Dyer Co., TN, by Col. Bell for 3 years or the war. Present on roll for Mar/April 1864 as Private. On roll for May/June 1864 as Private, "On extra duty since Feb. 1, 1864. Sergt. Major Russell Regiment. Mustered on Field & Staff roll." Present on Field & Staff roll for Feb/April 1864 as Sergeant Major, "Appointed Sergt. Major Feb. 5, 1864." Present on Field & Staff roll for May/June 1864.
On report (as Sgt. Major) of absentees and deserters, Verona MS, Feb. 28, 1865. Residence Dyer Co. TN; probable whereabouts Dyer.
Source: Compiled Service Records
also
Company G composed of 108 men was raised in Carter and Johnson County, Tennessee.13th Tennessee Cavalry, U.S. Army 1863- 1865, although I find no CCMoss listed when this was made.
 

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